[RJR_fan]

The money quote:

In Scripture, the image is just the opposite—that of an ark which remains afloat despite the greatest of storms and floods.

[muawiyah]

Way back when Christianity had a couple of manifestations ~ the first was as a community of believers ~ which is the one with which we are most familiar.

The other manifestation was as hermits living in caves in the desert, or alone on top of mountains.

We are so unfamiliar with that particular manifestation there's almost nothing we we know about it yet some of the great thinkers of Christianity's antiquity did exactly that.

So, what happened to those guys in the holes in the ground?

[topcat54]

Wait, let me help you with that to make your point.

In Scripture, the image is just the opposite—that of an ark which remains afloat despite the greatest of storms and floods.