I am amazed though at the lengths that members of the Catholic church will go to deny that the Catholic vote goes Democrat, I think that fierce resistance to even simple political truth, explains why it does.
Posted on 10/08/2010 7:08:12 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
Catholics form a relatively low percentage of participants the Tea Party movement, have similar views to most Americans on abortion, and overwhelmingly support the legal recognition of homosexual unions, according to a survey published by the Public Religion Research Institute.
The survey found that 14% of Tea Party participants are white Catholics, and another 4% are Latino Catholics-- a lower percentage total than the 22% of Americans who are Catholic.
The survey also found that 26% of white Catholics, and 18% of Latino Catholics, say they are more likely to vote for a candidate who supports abortion, while 38% of white Catholics, and 26% of Latino Catholics, are less likely to vote for a pro-abortion candidate. Overall, 30% of Americans are more likely, and 35% are less likely, to vote for a pro-abortion candidate.
In addition, the survey found that Catholics overwhelmingly support legal recognition of homosexual unions. 41% of white Catholics, and 46% of Latino Catholics, support same-sex marriage, while an additional 36% of white Catholics, and 22% of Latino Catholics, support same-sex civil unions. Only 19% of white Catholics, and 30% of Latino Catholics, are faithful to Catholic teaching, which opposes the legal recognition of homosexual unions. Overall, 37% of Americans support same-sex marriage, 27% support civil unions, and 33% oppose the legal recognition of homosexual unions. In 2006, only 26% of Americans supported same-sex marriage.
You can’t. Which was my point. You might find this poll by Calvin College of interest. It does provide info on traditionalist mainline Protestants vs modernist Protestants voting patterns. Traditionalist vote Republican as I would expect. Traditional/Orthodox Christians, whether Protestant or Catholic or Orthodox support pro life candidates.
http://blog.mlive.com/grpress/2008/06/calvin_college_poll_finds_main.html
The above was INEVITABLE!!!! (Yes! I am shouting, jumping up and down, and having a fit!)
If Catholic youth are sent into government, GODLESS, and socialist-funded schools, the nation **will** reap generations of godless and socialist “Catholics”!
Ditto for Protestants.
I am exasperated with conservatives who believe that government schools can somehow be reformed! They have **always** been socialist and now the are utterly godless. While the first government schools offered up a generic and lukewarm Protestantism, by my grandmother's day ( born 1894) they were godless with a sprinkle of prayer in the morning. There was HUGE difference between the Catholic education that my mother, her mother, and I enjoyed and that of the government schooling experienced by my father and his mother.
Shame on both Protestants and Catholics for allowing this to happen. What on earth were our parents and grandparents thinking when they allowed the government to corner the education market on schooling with their price-fixed monopoly on K-12 schooling?????!!!!!
By the way....Every Catholic child in Wichita, Kansas, has access to a tuition-FREE ( YES! **FREE**) Catholic K-12 school. If they can do it so should every other believing Catholic and Protestant congregation in this nation. Wichita is NOT richer than the rest of us!
Very sad poll..just imagine what we could do if supposed people of faith actually fought back.
Sigh.
I am amazed though at the lengths that members of the Catholic church will go to deny that the Catholic vote goes Democrat, I think that fierce resistance to even simple political truth, explains why it does.
The problem with you theory, is the history of the Catholic vote, versus the history of the Protestant vote.
Nope what we deny is that Catholics who are faithful to the Magesterium vote against life.
Your post #56.
You sure got that wrong, that is the overall Hispanic vote, Hispanic Protestants went 52% for Obama, not 67%. Catholic Hispanics appear to have gone for Obama by about 78%.
I've never seen those numbers before, and frankly they vary so much with what was reported in 2008 that I have trouble believing them. Out of the fourteen 2008 exit poll articles that mentioned religon, only three called out the Hispanic vote specifically, and none of them gave anything llike the numbers you've posted.
However, if you can document those numbers, I'll be sure to include them in the survey. Here's how they would line up in the survey:
46% McCain, 52% Obama - Non-Evangelical Protestants 12
XX% McCain, 52% Obama - Hispanic Protestants TBD
46% McCain, 53% Obama - Protestant/Other Christian14
xx% McCain, 53% Obama - Monthly church-goers 4**
44% McCain, 54% Obama - "Young whites"13
45% McCain, 54% Obama - Catholics1,4,6,8,9,10,11,12
45% McCain, 54% Obama - Catholic14
xx% McCain, 59% Obama - Semi-annual church-goers4**
38% McCain, 61% Obama - Occasional churchgoers1
37% McCain, 61% Obama - Non-weekly-mass-attending Catholics6,12
28% McCain, 62% Obama - Other faiths14
30% McCain, 67% Obama - Hispanics13****
xx% McCain, 68% Obama - Don't attend church4 **
22% McCain, 73% Obama - Other faiths14
23% McCain, 75% Obama - Unaffliliated with any religion11
23% McCain, 75% Obama - Unaffliliated14
21% McCain, 78% Obama - American Jews2,8,12 and other faiths12
21% McCain, 78% Obama - Jewish14**
XX% McCain, 78% Obama - Hispanic CatholicsTBD
xx% McCain, 94% Obama - Black Protestants11,13**,****
xx% McCain, 96% Obama - Blacks13**,****
That it is fine, but it doesn’t help us win elections.
See post 104, and Pew puts them at 44% Republican for 2000, and 56% Republican for 2004.
Yes it did with respect to family values, at which time no one really supposed any ordinary person wouldn’t entertain good, moral values. You keep bringing in this fiscal issue which has nothing whatsoever to do with what I am talking about. Go tell it to your toilet bowl.
Fiscal issue? When did I bring that in?
What is it with the personal attacks?
Oh I agree with that 100%.
Pew Catholics? The list on the rolodex at Pew? That respectable polling institution? That one?
Yeah...you know, the kind who sit in the back pew and are quick to split after Communion. “Stinky” Christians.
We need to re-educate these "catholics".
It is impossible that this “survey” of Tea Party participants is anywhere close to accurate. As for the survey of Catholics who fail to understand the nature of sodomy, people engaging in propaganda commonly ensure that they poll people who agree with them. Or, sometimes, they just make it up.
Regardless of what they may call themselves, or even what they think they may be, any objective assessment of these folks could only conclude, that by their stated beliefs and observed behavior they are NOT Catholic.
I grew up Southern Baptist in Dixie where except on the coast Catholics were only maybe 10 percent or so and we all knew most were more socially liberal than we were.
This is not news to me.
Greek Orthodox an even smaller religious minority on the other hand were no different on cultural stuff than we were.
Jesus is saving the Baptist and the Baptist are saving the South.
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