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To: mdmathis6
"While baptism is the commanded next step it is not the “saving” next step."

I'll side with Scripture on that one:

1 Pet 3:20 Which had been some time incredulous, when they waited for the patience of God in the days of Noe, when the ark was a building: wherein a few, that is, eight souls, were saved by water. 21 Whereunto baptism being of the like form, now saveth you also

Note the the analogy of the actual water of the flood in context with the statement about baptism ---real water.

9 posted on 10/04/2010 9:17:01 PM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII
Note the the analogy of the actual water of the flood in context with the statement about baptism ---real water.

Why don't we show those verses in context?

1 Peter 3:18-22
18For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit,
19through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison
20who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,
21and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
22who has gone into heaven and is at God's right hand—with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.

10 posted on 10/04/2010 10:38:58 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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