Once again, you're missing the point. Jesus told some who called Him Lord and apparently performed acts in His name, workers of inquity. People can be sincerely wrong but wrong nonetheless.
Since "Orthodox Christianity" has no path for me to salvation if my religion is false, then by declaring it so, you have judged me.
Again, I only judge your doctrine. I don't know you personally nor could I ever know definitely what's in your heart, so how could I judge you personally?
Jesus was not exactly welcomed by the Sanhedrin, you know, the Authority of his day. It didn't make him wrong then, it doesn't make us wrong now.
As a self-proclaimed logician, you know that proves absolutely nothing. The actions of the Sanhedrin have no bearing on whether the Christian Community is correct in its opinion about Mormonism.
It does make you a populist for bringing it up as an argument.
So how can I state an objective fact about a consensus opinion without you claiming that I'm a populist? As a logician, you know that simiply raising an argument which could labeled as populist doesn't make a person a populist.
Because you post here to influence others, and I cannot let the lies and misrepresentations posted by some antis go without at least a modest challenge so that those who are reading will have the opportunity to learn and decide for themselves.
Fine, it is the purpose of the forum to discuss ISSUES. Stop personalizing everything. Do you have liberal friends? I assume you do. When you disagree with their political views which are often based on deeply-held philosophical (and sometimes religious) views, are you condemning them? It's the same principle here: we are disagreeing about validity of the ideas, not condemning the person who holds the view. As a logician, that should not a difficult distinction for you to grasp.
No, I did not judge you, I cautioned you against fighting against God. It's a good warning, one every anti of every religion should heed.
So this is okay? However, it's not okay for people to warn about Mormon doctrine? To do so, is personally judging you? You'll have to draw on all your powers as a logician to explain away that inconsistency.
Yet another opinion stated as fact...
So where is your evidence to the contrary? It's your ideas that we have been debating. You were called a "fool" based on the quality of your ideas and argumentation. A word that Bible doesn't prohibit being used but warns that it is to be done with reasonable grounds.
I am really sorry my opposition to and pointing out of the effects of your arguments makes your assassination of my religion difficult...(/Sarc)
Yes, everyone's been really impressed by the quality of your argumentation....(/Sarc)
Logic is not whiny....
Yet, your posts are. "You're not my judge" is a whine. It doesn't answer the objections to Mormon doctrine that were raised. It is often used as a ploy (as are all forms of defensiveness) to make the debate opponent uncomfortable while not addressing the point. But as a logician, you already know that.
, whining about someone else making your argument difficult is
Then prepare to call me a whiner a lot because every time you personalize an issue, I'll call you on it. Stick to the issues like the great logician you claim that you are.
No, I did not judge you, I cautioned you against fighting against God. It's a good warning, one every anti of every religion should heed.
What is the underlying assumption here - that DU's definition of 'God' and that god's word is the truth. Therefore any 'word' counter to it is fighting against it. The charge by du is a defacto statement of judgement against you Commerce as well as any one else who challenges mormon 'truth'. For he places everyone else as 'anti's'. It is proof that mormonism cannot stand on its own in the field of ideas without demonizing and - demeaning - other beliefs contrary to itself.
And as you point out - when unable to defend its claims the standard victim card is whinned out about 'judging'. If it weren't for double standards - as du's comments prove - mormonism would have no standards at all.