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To: DelphiUser; ejonesie22; Colofornian; MHGinTN; greyfoxx39
Sometimes if it weren't for un-sourced (with a link) misquotes antis would have no quotes at all...

Are you that illiterate that you cannot follow a standard reference citation, or just too lazy?

Nary a link in the bunch, and accept for the D&C quotation on the church being the only true church, nothing is from the Cannon of the church...

Ah, I see that you are going to endorse the documented statements of your prophets. And yes, your DOCTRINE denegrates other religions - as a matter of doctrine. As you said The important question is: What does it do to a man's soul to denigrate another man's faith? You are endorsing these documented statements. They have the endorsement of one of your prophets DU - “The Journal of Discourses deservedly ranks as one of the standard works of the Church, and every rightminded Saint will certainly welcome with joy every number (issue) as it comes forth.“ (President George Q. Cannon, Journal of Discourses, Preface, Volume 8.) Are you GREATER than a prophet of your church DU.

But then the issue ISN'T mormon doctrine on this point - the issue is your whipping horse of denegrating another man's faith - my my and the double standard on mormonism's part (and their defenders here) if exponentially demonistrated here. THANK YOU DU FOR SUSTAINING YOUR LEADERSHIP'S DENEGRATION OF CHRISTIANITY

I could quote Fred Phelps and go after the Baptists, but that would be just as disingenuous as your quotations, I could go back and talk about the sale of indulgences and the Catholic church, but that would also be disingenuous, your list of private comments by men in the church who often were later elevated to positions in the church,

Big difference here DU - phelps, indulgences and 'private' comments are not in the same category as apostles and prophets of the mormon church - or are you going to lower your prophets to that level now? The citations from JoD are "General Conference Sermons and other talks by Presidents of the LDS Church and members of the Quorum of Twelve. These are not you 'joe nobodies' DU, and it is disingeneous for their statements to so glibly discounted. Whether or not their words were "doctrine", their words were denegrating.

The link also talks about how the church was embarrassed by the book and asked Bruce R McConkie not to reprint it as it was "full of errors and misstatements, and it is most unfortunate that it has received such wide circulation." Bruce R McConkie edited the book to take out a lot of statements that "Orthodox Christians" found objectionable.

Yet he was sustained to be an Apostle inspite of it hmmmmmm. Truth is DU, the quotation is present in the 1966 edition - the second edition with the approved text. So it appears that you are still sustaining McConkie's statements.

Clearly, it is the documented record that the highest leaders of the mormon church have historically denigrated, demeaned and put down the religion of others.

There is a path left for all to get out of Damnation, that is Jesus way of doing things.

Ordinances, necro dunks, bla bla bla. Really DU, apparently smith didn't believe the bom on this matter (you know the book that is to be the most perfect book, etc). Show me where in the bom that necrodunking is a necessary ordinance. Oh, and doctrine from Alma 34:35-36 and 2 Nephi 9:15 contradicts the practice.

So now I am responsible for everything anyone said you didn't like? I need to go on an apology tour like some Democrat president?

Not responsible - but do you sustain their words? Apparently from your response so far you have not repudiated any except your distant relative McConkie - except that the citation I used was from the APPROVED second edition of MD. There they are DU - do you need more citation to show that your highest leadership has historically denegrated other religions - specifically Christianity. Or is it too much for you to recognize the double standard of your position to do so.

Now out with the name calling personally by you calling me a cry baby?

Only if you choose to personify the matra.

You are right about one thing, your post was educational about double standards!

You have furthered my post's goals greatly by refusing to answer your own question in light of the documented historical statements of your churches highest leadership. Take a good wiff DU, that odor is coming from your diapers.

734 posted on 10/05/2010 8:56:38 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla; DelphiUser
Not responsible - but do you sustain their words?

Good Q, 'Zilla. Here Mormons for generations, twice per year, have "sustained" their "prophets" during the general conferences like the one they just had.

Have you known any of your "prophets" ever to not be "sustained", DU?

Mormons try to somehow claim that a "prophet" is only a "prophet" when speaking as a "prophet." But it's actually the reverse: We should assume a "prophet" or apostle is speaking as a prophet or apostle unless or until he claims he is specifically only representing himself in what he is saying...especially when these words are being published in official Lds sources and often spoken from places like the Mormon tabernacle.

753 posted on 10/05/2010 10:33:55 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Godzilla; Paragon Defender; restornu
Are you that illiterate that you cannot follow a standard reference citation, or just too lazy?

I don't have and won't take the time to look up a reference that you don't care enough to link to. antis have been continually found to be misinterpreting / creative editing citations. Look at what you are doing to my post. I state that we are Christians and therefore cannot be denigrating Christianity, your post is all about thanking me for confirming my support for denigration.

Lurkers, a link to my prior post. (see it's not that hard) read my post, read Godzilla's posted response and compare as an example of this tactic.

As for the JOD being canonized, it wasn't, period.

As for the prophet being lowered somehow... is a prophet speaking for God when he orders breakfast? Talks about the upcoming election? Discusses current theories in science?

A prophet is only a prophet when he says "Thus sayeth the Lord" or some other identifier where he says he is speaking for God. The faithful will know, it is apparent that antis do not know.

As for your demand that I either confirm or deny their words, I do not intend to do either, the spirit guides and I don't propose to guide you. My advice is the same, read, Pray, Ask God he will not lead you astray and he will help you to read truthfully, not for the purpose of hyperbole.

Delph
755 posted on 10/05/2010 11:02:25 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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