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To: 1010RD; MHGinTN; restornu; All
Keep in mind also, that Jesus criticized and eventually condemned the Pharisees not because they didn't believe in him, but because they didn't believe him (Jesus/Yahweh).

Why is it, 1010RD, I've corrected you numerous times from a Biblical response and I've rarely ever gotten a response from you? (Let's see if you again prove yourself to be consistent in this regard)

Note, ALL, how 1010RD tries to come across as absolutely authoritative on this...as if he has studied the Bible through and through, and can now conclude in his claim to MHGinTN that, no, it wasn't really anything about Jesus' identity that was problematic for the Pharisees. Nope. 'Twas only that the Pharisees found Jesus to be untrustworthy that was at issue.

Yet what was Jesus' claim to the Pharisees? Would that Jesus have agreed with 1010RD's supposed authoritative claim on this? Or does it yet (again) show how incomplete his studies are in the New Testament?

21Once more Jesus said to them, "I am going away, and you will look for me, and you will die in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come." 22This made the Jews ask, "Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, 'Where I go, you cannot come'?" 23But he continued, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins." (Jesus, John 8:21-24)

Here, Jesus clearly highlighted in v. 24 that His very Identity was the key issue with the Pharisees.

In fact, Jesus closed out this lengthy message to the Pharisees with yet another emphasis on His divine Identity to clearly underscore this: ..."before Abraham was born, I am!" (John 8:58)

Jesus repeatedly uses the same sacred "I AM" reference of Exodus 3:14 and applies it to Himself...to the point where the Pharisees in John 8 and John 10 continually are picking up stones to attempt upon Him the punishment for blasphemy, as Jesus is clearly making Himself out to be God.

The Pharisees clearly understood this, even if 1010RD doesn't.

ALL: Don't be fooled by such tactics.

674 posted on 10/03/2010 4:24:14 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Why is it, 1010RD, I've corrected you numerous times from a Biblical response and I've rarely ever gotten a response from you? (Let's see if you again prove yourself to be consistent in this regard)

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698 posted on 10/04/2010 8:15:13 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (We now have confirmation that Barack Obama truly loves poor people. He is creating so many!)
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To: Colofornian; MHGinTN; restornu; All

To my great delight Colofornian and I agree on a Gospel topic.

The Jews of Jesus’ day would not believe that he was also Yahweh.

Now why wouldn’t they?


704 posted on 10/04/2010 9:49:10 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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