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To: verga

To answer your question, neither, a train is not free, it has no choice but to go down the tracks. Mere movement in a predetermined path is not freedom. I do like your train analogy so let’s try this. The choice this article gives you is the first train stop, the “work camp” or further down the tracks to the “death camp” to use some Nazi imagery for the sake of simplification not morality. I think I’ll stick to my car.

I choose to do good because I want to do good, like I have chosen to serve my country for 18 years because I wanted to, not because I was drafted, or needed money for college or wanted a good retirement. I don’t do it to salute officers and calling over educated fools people “sir” all day long. I do it despite the clowns I have have to endure because I believe in what I am doing. I don’t do it for any expectation of some reward after I am done working. I don’t care for accolades promotions or retirement. I serve because I believe in the mission I perform.

I’m not a hedonist, I am not seeking to do whatever I like, whenever I like. I am saying this article says I am given two choices, one not that great, the other horrific and I am supposed to gratefully choose the not great because it is not horrific. “You can eat tofu the rest of your life, or I can set you on fire after I dump gasoline on you.” Really? that’s my choice? That’s what I can look forward to forever?

I’m not convinced of such a fate, and I am not willing to trust people dead 3000 years for 100% accuracy on the subject. I see no reason to believe their word against anyone else. You asking me to put all my eggs in one basket on the word of more or less goat herders dead 100 generations, based on no evidence whatsoever. And if that is right, I get to be a maid and toady for all eternity. I find such a “reward” underwhelming.


62 posted on 09/27/2010 10:46:51 AM PDT by McCloud-Strife ( USA 1776-2008)
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To: McCloud-Strife
“You can eat tofu the rest of your life, or I can set you on fire after I dump gasoline on you.” Really? that’s my choice? That’s what I can look forward to forever?

I LOVE it! No wonder we haven't made the sale.

- "Come unto me all ye that travail and are heavy-laden, and I will give you tofu."
- "Uh, thanks, Lord, but, pass!"

64 posted on 09/27/2010 11:23:40 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: McCloud-Strife

And thank you for applying Godwins law to a perfect analogy.
You can’t answwer the question, so you bring up the nazi’s, that gives me an automatic win, and you change the topic.
Had you stuck to the question you would have to admit your error.


70 posted on 09/28/2010 2:13:40 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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