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To: Yudan; kosta50; Kolokotronis

You obviously missed the point.

We are all called the be saints. We should all desire and aspire to be saints.

To be a saint is nothing more or less than to see the Beatific Vision, i.e., to make it to heaven. It is also considered by some of our separated brethren that to be living in a state of sanctifying Grace here on earth is to be a “saint.” Again, small “s.”

I don’t desire to be a Saint. Using caps with “Saint” signifies a canonized Saint. I do dearly desire to be a saint. But I’m not concerned about being a “Saint.” Shleps like me don’t usually qualify for the caps.

And there ain’t nothing petulant about that.

But to quibble over this little line about “becoming a saint,” in a fantastic talk by the Holy Father, is indeed petulant. And very disappointing. I don’t see the Patriarch taking the gospel to Great Britain the way our Holy Father is doing. And as magnificent as was Metropolitan Hilarion’s presence there was recently, it just ain’t the same.

(As far as I’m concerned, this is just Orthodox petulance at being upstaged.)


31 posted on 09/18/2010 3:26:11 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

“I don’t see the Patriarch taking the gospel to Great Britain the way our Holy Father is doing.”

Of course you don’t. After all, Doc, it is +BXVI’s territory and his responsibility and has been since the 7th century if I recall correctly.


33 posted on 09/18/2010 3:43:37 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; Yudan; Kolokotronis
We are all called the be saints. We should all desire and aspire to be saints

What is a saint? At what level of "perfection" does one become a saint? It is a deceiving and vain title for any Christian to assume for himself, first because no one is perfect and, two, because they hypocritically profess that they are saved by God's mercy and not because they deserve it.

You can't have it both ways.

43 posted on 09/19/2010 10:41:24 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; Yudan; Kolokotronis
I do dearly desire to be a saint

Let me help you with this: becoming a saint is election, not a wish. A Christian can wish only to serve God, as God sees fit, and expect nothing in return because a Christian deserves nothing in return.

44 posted on 09/19/2010 11:05:22 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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