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To: triumphant values; Tzfat; Kolokotronis; kosta50
I haven't been a member here long, but from a long time of lurking I don't think this is the proper etiquette for a religious thread, denigrating a revered religious figure. I don't think it would be any more welcome for a Christian to go on to a Jewish thread and call Maimonedes out for his anti-gentilism. I think it's called having manners.

Well said,dear friend.

Those not living in that time period have a disconnect of the culture and relationship to Christianity of that period of time

From Homily of Saint John of ST. MATTHEW On the Beatitudes.

For whereas the greatest of evils, and those which make havoc of the whole world, had their entering in from pride:--for both the devil, not being such before, did thus become a devil; as indeed Paul plainly declared, saying, "Lest being lifted up with pride, he fall into the condemnation of the devil:" [1 Tim. 3:6] --and the first man, too, puffed up by the devil with these hopes, was made an example of, and became mortal (for expecting to become a god, he lost even what he had; and God also upbraiding him with this, and mocking his folly, said, "Behold, Adam is become as one of us" [Gen. 3:22]; and each one of those that came after did hereby wreck himself in impiety, fancying some equality with God:--since, I say, this was the stronghold of our evils, and the root and fountain of all wickedness, He, preparing a remedy suitable to the disease, laid this law first as a strong and safe foundation. For this being fixed as a base, the builder in security lays on it all the rest. But if this be taken away, though a man reach to the Heavens in his course of life, it is all easily undermined, and issues in a grievous end. Though fasting, prayer, almsgiving, temperance, any other good thing whatever, be gathered together in thee; without humility all fall away and perish. It was this very thing that took place in the instance of the Pharisee. For even after he had arrived at the very summit, he "went down" with the loss of all, because he had not the mother of virtues: for as pride is the fountain of all wickedness, so is humility the principle of all self-command. Wherefore also He begins with this, pulling up boasting by the very root out of the soul of His hearers. -ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM

14 posted on 09/16/2010 7:45:49 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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