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To: ShadowAce
Yup. Titus also says that grace which brings salvation has appeared to all men. The Father has enabled all men to come to Him. It's now our free will to make that choice. It's His omniscience that knows what that choice will be.

"Appearance" does not equal Regeneration. Titus merely declares that Grace has appeared to all men, not that it has been quickened into all men. In fact, the New Testament specifically states that God does not quicken or regenerate all men, but only His Elect whom He has Chosen based upon no will of their own. The Reprobate have seen the coming of Christ and His grace, its appearance; but, being yet Unregenerate, they always freely choose to Reject Christ, just as the Scriptures declare.

Since "Appearance" in no way equals or even implies Regeneration, you therefore have no case whatsoever. Game, Set, Match, and thanks for playing.

49 posted on 09/15/2010 1:29:20 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Game, Set, Match, and thanks for playing.

Ahh, OK. I thought we were actually have a theological discussion, and not a game of "gotcha."

OK. I don't play games.

50 posted on 09/15/2010 1:31:30 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Christian_Capitalist; ShadowAce; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7
I wonder if the grace that is spoken of in Titus 2:11 is the common grace which some reformed theologians like to call common grace vs special grace. I do not know how many reform theologians hold to common grace vs. special. I do not know whether a majority of them do or a minority do., never the less I would say looking at the context I would have to say that Titus is referring to a common grace and not to a special grace considering the latter part of the verse and the following verses after it.
79 posted on 09/15/2010 7:23:07 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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