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To: ShadowAce
..and yet Jesus taught the opposite of that.

Nope, He didn't. He went on to say, "This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him." (John 6:65)

44 posted on 09/15/2010 1:20:05 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
"This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him." (John 6:65)

Yup. Titus also says that grace which brings salvation has appeared to all men.

The Father has enabled all men to come to Him. It's now our free will to make that choice. It's His omniscience that knows what that choice will be.

45 posted on 09/15/2010 1:23:00 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Nope, He didn't.

I meant to respond to this one also. Sorry.

Yes, He did. "This is my son, who was dead, and is now alive. And the son made his own decision to go to the Father. The Father didn't send anyone after him.

47 posted on 09/15/2010 1:25:00 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Christian_Capitalist; ShadowAce

Just saying that “the Father enabled him” to come to him doesn’t mean that the Father CHOSE [made] him to come... think of it as the big-boss/CEO of a company, if you get an appointment with him it’s because the CEO has enabled you to see him... usually through mediation-of-scheduling with his secretary.


66 posted on 09/15/2010 4:07:05 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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