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TURKMENISTAN: PASTOR FACES CHARGES
The Voice of the Martyrs ^ | September 8, 2010

Posted on 09/14/2010 12:00:51 PM PDT by wmfights

Pentecostal pastor Ilmurad Nurliev faces criminal charges of “large–scale swindling,” according to Forum 18 News.

The charges carry a maximum penalty of five years imprisonment and possible confiscation of property. Pastor Nurliev was arrested at his home in southeastern Turkmenistan on Aug. 27. Three women who previously attended Nurliev’s church wrote statements stating the pastor took money from them. Nurliev’s wife and other church members vigorously deny these charges, saying police pressured the three to write the statements and that they now regret doing so. Another church member was threatened that if she does not testify against Pastor Nurliev, her husband, who is not a church member, will be fired from his job.

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TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: persecution

1 posted on 09/14/2010 12:00:53 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: Legatus
Thought you might find this interesting.

FWIW, I don't think passively accepting abuse is going to fix this problem. The Gospel has to be preached to these lost people that are persecuting Christians. We can't do that and worry about hurt feelings.

2 posted on 09/14/2010 12:04:22 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Turkmenistan is one of the weirdest countries in the world.

Its muslim, but with a cult of personality around the ruler. The previous ruler wrote his own “koran” and everyone had to read it and comment on it endlessly; when he died, the new ruler had to write his own.


3 posted on 09/14/2010 12:20:16 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron
Its muslim, but with a cult of personality around the ruler. The previous ruler wrote his own “koran” and everyone had to read it and comment on it endlessly; when he died, the new ruler had to write his own.

Traditional Islam would benefit from a similar re-write-mania.


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4 posted on 09/14/2010 12:26:36 PM PDT by The Comedian
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To: The Comedian
Traditional Islam would benefit from a similar re-write-mania.

I think you're right.

5 posted on 09/14/2010 12:28:58 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron

I was in Turkmenistan a few months ago.
They are kind of part muslim, part capitalism and part Soviet syle socialism.

Private citizens can not own private property or guns and even the Police and military personnel are prohibited from carrying in public.

The capital city Ashgabot was the cleanest city I have ever seen with little old moslem women sweeping with home made brooms from dawn to dusk.


6 posted on 09/14/2010 12:33:58 PM PDT by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: marron
Thanks for the info.

One thing is sure, you don't see persecution of non-Christians in Christian countries but you sure do in muslim countries.

7 posted on 09/14/2010 12:36:39 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
Thought you might find this interesting.

Well I do. I hope the accused man isn't guilty, but then I hope that every time I read about someone accused of wrongdoing.

I'm not sure how this applies to what I think you're referring to though. If we're still talking about why the pope doesn't unilaterally condemn islam I don't think this article has anything to do with that. I can only rephrase what I've written before, when your actions only result in repercussions against you then you may do whatever you wish. When your actions result in other people suffering then you must be very careful.

We're not talking about risking the lives of missionaries, I think they make the choice to put their lives at risk just by entering mission territory. My concern, and I believe the pope's concern, is for the locals. Not only the newly converted but the people who are still potentially converts.

If the pope hits the ground in the UK on Thursday and says "islam is of the devil" how many innocent dead will be piled up within the first 24 hours? Does he have the right to ignite that particular firestorm?

8 posted on 09/14/2010 6:31:08 PM PDT by Legatus (From the desire of being esteemed, Deliver me, Jesus.)
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To: Legatus
I'm not sure how this applies to what I think you're referring to though. If we're still talking about why the pope doesn't unilaterally condemn islam

You may have missed the point in the desire to defend your pope. The point I was making was the persecution of Christians will happen as long as islam is around.

If the pope hits the ground in the UK on Thursday and says "islam is of the devil" how many innocent dead will be piled up within the first 24 hours? Does he have the right to ignite that particular firestorm?

How many are lost to eternal damnation because they think they will go to heaven by being good muslims?

9 posted on 09/15/2010 7:04:26 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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