Posted on 09/14/2010 10:27:28 AM PDT by NYer
STONOR, England — For nearly three centuries after the Reformation, Catholics in England were outlaws.
But in the turmoil and persecution that followed the break between King Henry VIII and Rome, noble families such as the Stonors clung to their faith, "in spite of dungeon, fire and sword," as the Victorian hymn "Faith of our Fathers" put it.
"We're just stubborn, really," says Ralph Thomas Campion Stonor, the seventh Lord Camoys, a title bestowed on an ancestor for valor in the Battle of Agincourt in 1415.
Pope Benedict XVI will recall the years of persecution during his upcoming tour of Britain Sept. 16-19. He will visit Westminster Hall, the medieval chamber within the Houses of Parliament where the Catholic Thomas More was tried and convicted of treason in 1535. More refused to swear an oath accepting the annulment of King Henry's marriage, thus becoming one of the first of the legion of English Catholic martyrs.
The Stonor family's history mirrors the vicissitudes of Catholics, both noble and humble, who defied the law and risked death to preserve their faith through times of persecution until they regained full legal rights in the 19th century.
The Stonors were among those described as respectable "recusants," people who refused to attend Church of England services; respectable because they did not join in any plots to overthrow the monarchy.
It was possible, even in the turbulent times of Queen Elizabeth I, to be openly Catholic and still enjoy royal favor. A notable case was the composer William Byrd, who wrote music for the Chapel Royal and for the Catholic Mass.
The Stonor family sheltered another famous martyr, the Jesuit priest Edmund Campion. Campion's printing press was discovered at the Stonor house after Campion was arrested in 1581.
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Plenty of blame to go around regarding that sordid mess.
Lord Camoys is standing in the roof of his home that was used as the 'Priest Hole', where Catholic priests would hide during the English Reformation during witch hunts by the Protestant authorities.
Joseph Pearce has written two very good books about the Catholicism of Shakespeare’s family and of the Bard himself.
Wonderful. I’m working on a book on some of the less ‘respectable’ nobles. :)
Glad to see this fine article.
Christians and catholics need to stand up for their faith and religion now more than ever before.
If these nobles did not "know their role" they would be taught a painful lesson and be made an example of.
My protestant ancestors were run out of Germany by the Catholics, and were just some of the thousands of Pennsylvania Dutch in America.
That was then. You ae right. Catholics and Christians and all faiths need to unite agains the anti-religious nuts who are trying to criminalize faith in America today.
Incidentally, Islam, one of the great common enemies of both Catholics and Protestants, is by nature an established religion, because it makes no distinction between church and state.
It´s really amazing what Shakespeare was able to get away with. He seems to have really liked walking that tightrope.
We Americans should remember what George Washington told us: stay out of Europe’s mess. (Paraphrased ;-). All kinds of people did bad things to each other in the past. Fine ... means nothing to me, except a reminder that all of us are sinners.
Shows that Elizabeth had a heart, somewhere.
As far as Elizabeth having a heart, she had her own sister murdered. But Byrd and Tallis were no threat - and she had impeccable taste.

St. Ninian's Church, Tynet is an historic Roman Catholic church clandestine church located at Tynet about 4 miles to the west of Buckie, Scotland in the Enzie region. Erected in 1755, it is the oldest surviving Roman Catholic church built in Scotland after the Reformation.Architecture
St. Ninian's looks like a long, low barn or like a row of simple cottages because it was a clandestine church designed to look anonymous at a time when Catholic worship was tolerated in Britain and many other Protestant lands on the condition that worship take place in out-of-the way churches so as not to offend Protestant sensibilities. St. Ninian's is a superbly preserved example of a clandestine church.The church has a simple whitewashed interior with a foyer and a single large room. A reused doorway with Corinthian columns leads from the foyer and baptistry to the church proper. The simple wooden pews and confessional are painted grey. A simple octagonal pulpit with a sounding board dates to 1787.
History
St Ninian's replaced a church located in St Ninian's burial ground, Chapelford, that was destroyed by soldiers in 1728. Before the construction of St. Ninian's, services were held on an occasional basis, often at night in barns conducted by priests who traveled disguised as ordinary farmers.At the time the church was constructed, the building was an extremely modest private house owned by a "poor woman." Although the existence of a Catholic congregation and the fact that they intended to construct a space in which to conduct communal worship was not a secret, in keeping with the conditions under which Catholic worship was tolerated in Scotland, Father Godsman purchased the house, on land owned by the Gordan family, and announced that he was "making an additione (sic) as a cot for his sheep." In its original form, the building was thatched and the windows were not glazed. Glass windows and a slate roof were added by Father George Matheson in 1779, as conditions eased for Catholicism in Scotland. Father Matheson also added a ball finial on the building's west gable. The building was restored in 1951.
St. Ninian's is still a consecrated church, although it was supplanted as the leading church in the parish by St. Gregory's Church, Preshome in 1788. The church is protected as a category A listed building
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Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots, was Elizabeth's 1st cousin once removed, not her sister.
On the other hand, it's fairly likely that Mary Stuart had her second husband, Lord Darnley, murdered.
Tallis was older (he was Byrd's teacher at one point) so he wasn't on the cusp of the really serious persecutions. He was in his 80s by the time things got really bad, but much earlier he composed for Edward, who was no fan of Catholicism.
Cousin (Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots), not sister (Mary Tudor, Queen of England).
I stand corrected.
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