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To: RobbyS
Be careful in making such assertions. I have yet to find an African priest who did not accept the facticity of the Bible Ask one of Mother Teresa’s Indian nuns. Such people have an intuitive knowledge of the world of the Apostles and they have had personal encounters with Shamans. So they firmly believe in the reality of the Devil as a force in the world. As for educated Catholics, Bobby Jindal, the governor of Louisiana has published a personal experience of an exorcism, so again,so avoid hasty generalizations . Positivism has indeed, prevailed in many Catholic universities, but a significant minority is in rebellion against this.

That's good to know, but I can't help but point out that it is the positivists who speak on behalf of the Catholic Church and who dominate its clergy and its theological organs. Almost all US Catholic publications, without exception, insist on at least the possibility of both evolution and higher criticism as one of the historic distinctions that separates Catholics from Fundamentalist Protestants. Also, I have not heard of any Third World bishop or theologian making much noise to counteract the prevailing positivism.

As for numbers and ancient creeds, it is significant that the pope is traveling to England for the beatification of Cardinal Newman. To the distress of the Arian bishops of the Catholic Church in England—I might add. I use the term Arian because Newman is famous for his history of the Arian movement in the 4th Century. Owing to the support of the Emperor Constantius, the Arians and the “semi-Arians” in the episcopacy were in command. Yet in the end, the Nicene Creed prevailed and there are many of us who recite it with as much conviction as ever, as Newman himself did, whatever the convictions of the “educqted.”

I am afraid I don't hold the enthusiasm for Cardinal Newman that most conservative Catholics do. The man was a Biblical minimalist, even going so far as to suggest the Bible contains non-inerrant (perhaps even non-inspired) "obiter dicta." As far as I am concerned, he would feel right at home in today's liberal Catholic universities.

98 posted on 09/08/2010 11:31:16 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Zokhrenu lechayyim Melekh chafetz bachayyim; vekhotvenu beSefer HaChayyim lema`ankha 'Eloqim Chayyim)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Minimalist? Not even Calvin could meet your standard I think. Asfar as the “possibility” of evolution, One does have to look the natural data, or else adopt a Muslim view of God as a whimsicalist. Anything we can imagine is possible, except that God does not exist.


104 posted on 09/08/2010 1:09:06 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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