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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The mass is an abomination to God because it seeks to bring Christ down from His place in heaven at the right hand of God the Father and tries to re-sacrifice Him over and over in an endless alchemy

I'm not sure who you imagine teaches such nonsense.

Was God the Son not in heaven when Jesus of Nazareth walked the earth?

Is Jesus of Nazareth not God the Son?

Is God absent from the world? If He is not, does His presence in the world derogate from His presence in heaven?

It's bizarre that these questions even have to be asked.

11 posted on 09/07/2010 2:15:54 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
It's bizarre that these questions even have to be asked.

I think the problem stems from the assumption that Eternity is only time -- just longer! Leads to a lot of corollary misunderstandings!

13 posted on 09/07/2010 2:41:47 PM PDT by maryz
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To: wideawake
I'm not sure who you imagine teaches such nonsense.

Why, Roman Catholics teach this "nonsense" to other Roman Catholics.

Per the following Roman Catholic FR thread, read all about how priests consider themselves to be an "alter Christus."

Then read all the comments from RC FReepers high-fiving every word of it.

Wizards is a polite word. Warlocks is closer to the truth.

THE AMAZING GIFT OF THE PRIESTHOOD
by Father Kenneth Baker

"....Simply stated, the Catholic priest is another Christ. Through his ordination he has been granted the amazing gift of being a channel of divine grace for the eternal salvation of those he come into contact with — both in his official ministry and in his personal life."

"Another Christ" in both his "official ministry and in his personal life."

No wonder these men think they can get away with pederasty. They believe themselves to be "entitled" by virtue of their status as "another Christ" in both their professional and private lives.

Let us not forget that you can't have magick without a magician.

As far as where Christ is today, we are told in Scripture that Christ sits now at the right hand of God the Father.

Apparently Roman Catholics don't read their Bibles. If they did, they would know that it is the Holy Spirit who indwells Christians today.

Christ is with us spiritually. Materially, He is in heaven. He is not re-sacrificed again and again to pay for sins which God has told us He has already forgotten.

Perhaps Roman Catholics don't read Hebrews. I suggest they try.

15 posted on 09/07/2010 2:57:06 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: wideawake
It's bizarre that these questions even have to be asked.

If the principle canon and stimulus is to deny and defame not just what the Church teaches but often some caricature of it, the first thing to go will be reason

Maybe reason is second since truth goes pretty much right at the beginning. prudence, temperance, courtesy also flee, right after charity, who is also expelled early in the exchange.

But when a nation is so abandoned that the Nazi Pope is allowed even in Westminster ... well, what can the righteous do?

LOL.

30 posted on 09/07/2010 6:21:37 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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