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To: rosettasister; pastorbillrandles
Yeah. This is that “praying down principalities” lie.

Uh.

Jesus tore down principalities for us on the Cross. It is not up to any individual Christian to address Principalities (God's angels or fallen angels/demons) or command them or anything. This is part of the lesson of Jesus in the Garden when He said He would not command angels to rescue Him or fight for Him.

By our righteous actions, i.e. overcoming sin and dealing with our own propensity for sin — that is how we personally deal with principalities.

We as individual Christians are NEVER to address Principalities or Powers directly.

The Disciples never did this. We “wrestle” with them as Jacob wrestled with the Angel (who was a principality by the way who was keeping Jacob from his promised land until Jacob admitted he was a sinner/cheater!) We can rebuke the thinking of the evil one, as Jesus did in the forty days in the desert; or as Jesus rebuked the thinking of Peter when Peter said Jesus must not go to the Cross -- but we are not to have prayers that address or command principalities directly. It is Christian witchcraft.

Please refrain from this witchcraft in the name of Christ thinking about Principalities.

Even Daniel NEVER addressed or “did warfare” against a Principality in the book of Daniel.

This is a theology made up out of the ashes of that stupid 90’s book by Frank Peretti THIS PRESENT DARKNESS.

It is complete apostasy and gets our minds off of the immediacy of our own personal Cross and the problem of loving others because we are so caught up in some fake idea that it is our problem to deal with Principalities.

Again, JESUS tore them down and “made captivity captive” at the Cross.

I'd appreciate it, as one of the NAR/IHOP/MSOG New Order of the Latter RainFalse Prophet slayers, Pastor Randles, if you would chime in on this problem.

5 posted on 09/05/2010 4:15:52 PM PDT by TwoLegsGood ("...my sin is ever before me" - King David)
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To: TwoLegsGood
It is complete apostasy and gets our minds off of the immediacy of our own personal Cross and the problem of loving others because we are so caught up in some fake idea that it is our problem to deal with Principalities.

Prayers to God - for anything - are always welcome to God. God can handle all of them. As long as a person is praying to God, there is no harm. God will handle all that needs to happen, whether through actions, teachings, or whatever. To "warn" people not to pray for pretection against, or the abolition of, any evil is - at the very least - pride. At worst, it is actively seeking to protect that evil from the results of the prayer.

Maybe you should follow your own advice, and worry about your own cross, rather than presuming the authority to get between people and God. As they say, fools rush in where angels fear to tread. Daring to mess with other people's prayers is, IMHO, above your pay grade.

6 posted on 09/05/2010 4:24:48 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: TwoLegsGood
Yeah. This is that “praying down principalities” lie. Uh. Jesus tore down principalities for us on the Cross. It is not up to any individual Christian to address Principalities

You might want to take that up with Paul, the New Testament, the Bible, and God.

10Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: 18Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints.

Ephesians 6: 10-18

Let me ask, do you actually read this Bible thingy?

10 posted on 09/05/2010 4:48:56 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: TwoLegsGood

Daniel wasn’t born again.

Jesus himself that the the same works he did AND GREATER would be done by those who would believe on him.

Nobody rises to the top without spiritual help from one source or the other. Nobody. The higher one goes the more powerful the evil spiritual influence.

If you don’t think that Peter and Paul battled the spiritual realm at the highest levels you don’t understand the opposition at all.


45 posted on 09/05/2010 8:43:10 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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