Pay attention to what the Nicene creed does not say about Mary.. that she was EVER virgin, that she was "immaculately conceived" and never sinned, or that she plays any role in redemption
What it does say of Mary is
For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man.
Which all professing Christians say Amen to..
My current pastor is an ex Baptist preacher (Army chaplain). I have had an ex Presbyterian priest and some from other religions who converted as well. The fruit is ripening and the reunification of Christianity is gaining momentum.
How funny I have had several ex Catholic pastors.. LOL..most of the fruit that falls from the catholic tree lands in my church ...
There will never be "unity" with the elect and the catholic church, only other un-regenerates will join Rome. The saved will never come, they resisted the inquisition, being on hit lists and being burned at the stake ..
Jhn 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
Jhn 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Jhn 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Jhn 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand.
Jhn 10:29 My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand.
John 12:20 11 Now there were some Greeks 12 among those who had come up to worship at the feast. 21 13 They came to Philip, who was from Bethsaida in Galilee, and asked him, "Sir, we would like to see Jesus." 22 Philip went and told Andrew; then Andrew and Philip went and told Jesus. 23 14 Jesus answered them, "The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified. 24 15 Amen, amen, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains just a grain of wheat; but if it dies, it produces much fruit. 25 Whoever loves his life 16 loses it, and whoever hates his life in this world will preserve it for eternal life. 26 Whoever serves me must follow me, and where I am, there also will my servant be. The Father will honor whoever serves me. 27 "I am troubled 17 now. Yet what should I say? 'Father, save me from this hour'? But it was for this purpose that I came to this hour. 28 Father, glorify your name." Then a voice came from heaven, "I have glorified it and will glorify it again."
29 The crowd there heard it and said it was thunder; but others said, "An angel has spoken to him." 30 Jesus answered and said, "This voice did not come for my sake but for yours. 31 Now is the time of judgment on this world; now the ruler of this world 18 will be driven out. 32 And when I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw everyone to myself."
You guys give me Paul and Isaiah. I give you Jesus. Neither Paul nor Isaiah will Judge you, neither will they save you. Jesus can and if you permit Him, He will. Give up your hate and your contempt. Where is your imitation of Christ? Have you set it aside when you post?
John 12:20 11 Now there were some Greeks 12 among those who had come up to worship at the feast. 21 13 They came to Philip, who was from Bethsaida in Galilee, and asked him, "Sir, we would like to see Jesus." 22 Philip went and told Andrew; then Andrew and Philip went and told Jesus. 23 14 Jesus answered them, "The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified. 24 15 Amen, amen, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains just a grain of wheat; but if it dies, it produces much fruit. 25 Whoever loves his life 16 loses it, and whoever hates his life in this world will preserve it for eternal life. 26 Whoever serves me must follow me, and where I am, there also will my servant be. The Father will honor whoever serves me. 27 "I am troubled 17 now. Yet what should I say? 'Father, save me from this hour'? But it was for this purpose that I came to this hour. 28 Father, glorify your name." Then a voice came from heaven, "I have glorified it and will glorify it again."
29 The crowd there heard it and said it was thunder; but others said, "An angel has spoken to him." 30 Jesus answered and said, "This voice did not come for my sake but for yours. 31 Now is the time of judgment on this world; now the ruler of this world 18 will be driven out. 32 And when I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw everyone to myself."
You guys give me Paul and Isaiah. I give you Jesus. Neither Paul nor Isaiah will Judge you, neither will they save you. Jesus can and if you permit Him, He will. Give up your hate and your contempt. Where is your imitation of Christ? Have you set it aside when you post?
You are absolutely right. That is something the Church believed entirely de fide as a matter of tradition probably beginning with the 2nd century, along with the belief that she died and was assumed bodily into heaven on the third day (the Eastern Orthodox Feast of the Dormition of the Ever Virgin Mary dates to the earliest days of the Church).
Origen (late 2nd and early 3rd century eastern theologian) is credited as being the first among Christian apologists to actually use the term ever virgin for Mary (about the same time as Terrullian, in the west, coined the term Trinity).
The Creed also alters Pauline verse (1 Co 15:4) when it says "and rose on the third day according to the scriptures" rather than "was raised..."
Also, the original Nicene Creed does not really establish the co-equality of the Father and Son and the Holy Spirit. That is accomplished only at the Second Ecumenical Council few decades later, towards the end of the fourth century.
Immaculate Conception remains utterly unknown to the East.
No wonder Rome ignores and diminishes Scripture. The word of God contradicts and thus denounces its errant beliefs and practices.