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To: Pyro7480

I have no idea what occurs behind the scenes, but embracing a religion that slaughters Christians is what exactly?


6,231 posted on 09/19/2010 2:15:43 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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embracing a religion that slaughters Christians is what exactly?

Exactly.

From a first-up on google which recounts "What the Catholic Catechism says about Islam" which all Roman Catholics are called to believe under penalty of sin...

RCC 841 - "The Moslems, "professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who at the last day wiill judge mankind" (Lumen Gentium 16). Though the Islamic faith does not acknowledge Jesus as God, it does revere Him as prophet, and also honors His virgin mother. Moslems "prize the moral life, and give worship to God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting" (Nostra Aetate 3). Noting that there had been many quarrels and hostilies between Christians and Muslims, the Second Vatican Council urged that all "forget the past and strive sincerely for mutual understanding, and, on the behalf of all mankind, make common cause of safeguarding and fostering social justice, moral values, peace, and freedom" (Nostra Aetate 3).

Let us now consider these statements of authoritative Catholic doctrine one at a time.

"Moslems profess the faith of Abraham."

Meaningless and dangerous. That Muslims claim descent from Abraham and even claim to share his faith tells us nothing about the actual doctrines and history of Islam. It does not mean that those doctrines have anything in common with Christianity and Judaism.

"Muslims along with us adore the one and merciful God."

False. The god of the Koran, who is a god of pure will unknowable to man, a god who commands his Islamic followers to conquer the earth, a god who commands that Muslims kill Jews and Christians unless they accept Islam, is not the God of the Bible.

"The Islamic faith regards Jesus as a prophet."

False. The Islamic faith regards Jesus, along with Abraham and Moses, as Islamic prophets, and says that anyone who believes otherwise is an enemy of Islam who must be punished.

"Moslems prize the moral life, and give worship to God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting."

False. Muslims only believe in moral treatment toward their fellow Muslims. Non-Muslims are enemies, to be lied to, warred against, stolen from, subdued, and killed. The idea of an objective morality is foreign to Islam.

"Forget the past [i.e., forget 1,400 years of jihad, including the destruction of Eastern Christendom by Muslims] and strive sincerely for mutual understanding [with Muslims]."

Catholics are thus obligated to forget that their 1,400 year old enemy, their enemy who is commanded by his religion to subdue and destroy Christendom, is in fact their enemy. This obligation on Catholics is worse than suicidal liberalism. It turns suicidal liberalism into a religion, which says if you believe that your enemy is your enemy, if you speak the truth about your enemy who is commanded by his unchanging religion to subdue and destroy you, you are in a state of sin and may go to hell.

"On the behalf of all mankind, make common cause [with Muslims]."

Muslims are commanded by their god not to be friends with Christians and Jews, so how can Christians make common cause with Muslims? To the extent that we attempt to follow this command, we engage in a sick fantasy that we are making common cause with Muslims, while they use our state of delusion to advance their power over us.

"Safeguard and foster social justice, moral values, peace, and freedom."

Social justice is a leftist term that has no meaning in the real world. There has never been and can never be a society that has social justice. Social justice is simply a Marxist slogan the effect of which is to delegitimize every existing society, or rather, to delegitimize Western political society.

Perhaps muslims aren't such an enemy of Rome afteraall. Perhaps muslims serve a purpose of Rome by further destroying people and cultures which are not under Rome's control.

Certainly it's interesting that while Rome calls muslims its "brother," Rome anathematizes (damns to hell) all Protestants who believe they have been saved by God's grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone.

I think Rome knows exactly who its friends are and always has known. It's just that some of us are a little late in catching on to that fact.

6,263 posted on 09/19/2010 3:24:30 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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