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To: HarleyD; maryz; bkaycee; kosta50
Can anyone imagine King David passing out, "God Loves You" t-shirts?

No, but I can imagine Jesus doing so.

We do not understand God as they did in David's time, else we would still be Jews.

In the OT we have the massive revelation that God is not like the pagans gods. First of all "He is one." Second, we can enter into conversation and covenants and have a concept of God as "just" rather than capricious.

We have "God loves you, if..."

If nothing changes, nothing changes. Something really changed in the Incarnation. Revealed to us was that God's love does not depend on our keeping the law. Jesus took us from "God loves you, if.." to "God loves you."

If we do not follow Jesus, if nothing has changed with His Incarnation, we have not learned more about His Father; we still have only the OT and not the Gospel.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

6,092 posted on 09/18/2010 5:16:32 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; maryz; bkaycee; kosta50
Something really changed in the Incarnation. Revealed to us was that God's love does not depend on our keeping the law.

I would suggest there was a understanding of this in Old Testament times. Note what the scriptures teaches:

The difference in the OT and the NT is the coming of the promise. They looked forward to when people would be redeemed. We looked back. One of the most IMPORTANT difference between the OT and NT times is that God put His Spirit in us to walk in His statues. I personally cannot fathom how I could even function as a Christian without the Holy Spirit. Even with Him, I fail miserably.

As far as Jesus handing out the t-shirts, our Lord did not look very favorable upon those who He called "sons of the devil" or "brood of vipers".

For God so loved the world...

Dr. Sproul stated that people always quote John 3:16 without quoting the whole context of the verses:


6,095 posted on 09/18/2010 5:49:57 PM PDT by HarleyD
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