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To: Mr Rogers; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; RnMomof7
When I’m asked to say who Jesus is...what is next

Asking you who Jesus is was the next logical step in my argument. The answer to the question is Peter's reply to Jesus, and this reply is the rock upon which the church is built. This "rock" is God's supernatural revelation to Christians and no Christian ever reaches it on his own accord. You however claim that you did. But then again, perhaps you think the man Peter is the rock.

5,618 posted on 09/16/2010 10:29:48 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings
Asking you who Jesus is was the next logical step in my argument. The answer to the question is Peter's reply to Jesus, and this reply is the rock upon which the church is built. This "rock" is God's supernatural revelation to Christians and no Christian ever reaches it on his own accord. You however claim that you did. But then again, perhaps you think the man Peter is the rock.

That certainly is a valid conclusion to draw.

5,622 posted on 09/16/2010 10:35:55 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; RnMomof7; Mad Dawg; wagglebee

“But then again, perhaps you think the man Peter is the rock.”

There you go again. In post 5262 (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2578704/posts?page=5262#5262), I gave you my answer on this question at length, largely via a long quote from Albert Barnes. And anyone reading it would see I disagree with Catholics on the meaning of the passage in Matt 16.

But it doesn’t matter what I say I believe. My tagline is not an unChristian one. Jesus said, “Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you.” - Matt 7

Mr Barnes comments on it thus:

“Verse 6. Give not that which is holy, etc. By some, the word holy has been supposed to mean flesh offered in sacrifice, made holy, or separated to a sacred use. But it probably means here anything connected with religion—admonition, precept, or doctrine. Pearls are precious stones found in shell-fish, chiefly in India, in the waters that surround Ceylon. They are used to denote anything peculiarly precious, Revelation 17:4; 18:12-16; Matthew 13:46. In this place they are used to denote the doctrines of the gospel. Dogs signify men who spurn, oppose, and abuse that doctrine; men of peculiar sourness and malignity of temper, who meet it like growling and quarrelsome curs, 2 Peter 2:22; Revelation 22:15. Swine denote those who would trample the precepts under feet; men of impurity of life; corrupt, polluted, profane, obscene, and sensual; who would not know the value of the gospel, and who would tread it down as swine would pearls, 2 Peter 2:22; Proverbs 11:22. The meaning of this proverb then is, do not offer your doctrine to those violent and abusive men, who would growl and curse you; nor to those peculiarly debased and profligate, who would not perceive its value, would trample it down, and abuse you.”

http://www.studylight.org/com/bnn/view.cgi?book=mt&chapter=007

There comes a point where someone has to decide if the other person is listening or not...and if not, then my tagline is good advice on how to proceed.


5,648 posted on 09/16/2010 11:53:22 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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