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To: Natural Law
I appreciate that it is the practice of some Prtotestant sects to mine nuggets from Scripture to affirm what ever point of dogma suits its founder, but you cannot apply the same practice to the Catechism. Unlike a penal code, it must be taken in its entirety. When read and understood in its complete context it makes no such demand on infants for their salvation.

Well that's great...We don't care to hunt in your catechism because when we find what appears to be a definitive statement, you guys claim that it doesn't mean what it says...

So all you guys have to do is tell us the conclusive determination of what your catechism says on any given topic and we'll know what your religion teaches...

So what is the final determination on baptism in your catechism??? Easy, ain't it...

5,567 posted on 09/16/2010 8:53:32 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
.We don't care to hunt in your catechism because when we find what appears to be a definitive statement, you guys claim that it doesn't mean what it says...

So all you guys have to do is tell us the conclusive determination of what your catechism says on any given topic and we'll know what your religion teaches...

How refreshing to read the implication that you guys do not know what we teach.

However, it is mystifying then why, if you all don't know what we teach, you all engage in this reconnaissance by fire.

Since the method of the inquiry presupposes hostility, and since I do not want to offer helps to the answers to help a group whose rhetoric implies ill-will, I think I will let you all continue to charge us with saying what we do not say and accuse us of doing what we do not do.

5,595 posted on 09/16/2010 9:48:21 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Iscool; Natural Law
So what is the final determination on baptism in your catechism??? Easy, ain't it...

It was always that baptism was necessary until the church decided it wanted happy happy members , and did not want God to look like a real judge.. so they "expounded " on the teaching ..

" THE Pope will cast aside centuries of Catholic belief later this week by abolishing formally the concept of limbo, in a gesture calculated to help to win the souls of millions of babies in the developing world for Christ."

A bit of man made theology here..

"The answer since the 13th century has been limbo. What remains in an uncertain state, though, is the status of all the pre-Christian and unbaptised adult souls held by some still to be in this halfway house between Heaven and Hell."

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5,671 posted on 09/16/2010 1:44:47 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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