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To: Mr Rogers

How did you, by an effort of your will, came to understand the spiritual things of God? For no natural man ever has before you. Are you boasting?


5,326 posted on 09/15/2010 5:58:39 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

“How did you, by an effort of your will, came to understand the spiritual things of God? For no natural man ever has before you. Are you boasting?”

Again...and again, and again...I have NEVER said that I comprehended God, and reached up to Heaven to pull him down. Arminians believe it is the grace of God, reaching out to those who have hated God and been his enemies.

“God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. 10For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.” - Romans 5

That is why we are saved by grace, not faith...but we are saved BY grace THRU faith. Faith gives us the access to grace, uniting us with Christ. It is FAITH that brings the union, not election.


5,334 posted on 09/15/2010 6:11:03 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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