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To: D-fendr

That’s a wonderful verse. “Whosoever believeth.”

Who believes? That’s what I’ve been asking you a dozen times today.

So who believes and who doesn’t? What’s the difference in those two men?


4,914 posted on 09/14/2010 10:42:26 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
So who believes and who doesn’t? What’s the difference in those two men?

You mean other than they are two different men with different experiences making different choices at different times and different places under different conditions?

Nothing. To me as I'm thinking about it now, that's a lot of differences.

They are also similarities: both created human beings, that's the same. God is unchanging, the same for both. However, what people tell them God is can be be quite different, and that can, not necessarily always, have a major effect, but it's also part of the different experiences and different choices.

I'm not sure what you're asking for here, other than the old Calvinism, and you know my view on that. If it's something else, you can just post it. Maybe I'll have an aha moment.

4,920 posted on 09/14/2010 10:58:59 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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