RMo7:What former Catholic made these statements?
You know, I'd like an answer to that question as well. Somehow I think that my name got associated with stating that the Catholic church does not allow married priests. I don't recall saying that and I don't recall even addressing the issue. I went through my posting history looking for that comment and can't find it.
If someone thinks I said it, if they could recall where and when, it would be a big help if they could post a link to it. Otherwise, I'm going to disavow that comment.
MD:If somebody who thinks-....... that the chalice is never offered;
Still beating that dead horse? That's not a matter of being poorly catechized when that was what was happening in actuality when I left the Catholic church. If (and since) it changed AFTER I left the Catholic church, you simply cannot use that as evidence of being poorly catechized. If I made that statement while being in the Catholic church after the change had occurred, then I would be poorly catechized, but how can you accuse someone who is not part of the church for being poorly catechized when they aren't in the church any more?
DUH!
You were the one, many threads back who made the claim (a) that married priests were not allowed, and (b) that you were Catholic and you knew what you were talking about.
It is true that I do not know when you abandoned the Catholic Church, and in the clearest sense it is not poor catechesis as such if you left before the chalice was made available. Did you leave in the 60's or early 70's? Did you care only enough about your religion to leave it, but not enough to find out what was going on and why?
However, the main point, that the authority you claimed for your statements was, well, not authoritative. That's the point you seem to miss. YOU claimed authority. But evidently you did not know what many knew, that many many things changed in the Catholic Church's practice in the '70's and '80's. So you assumed that things had not changed.
And you made a further error, which can be blamed on your catechesis: You confused doctrine with discipline. It is a matter of Catholic doctrine that women cannot be ordained. It is a matter of discipline whether the chalice is offered or whether married men can be priests.
So your catechesis ahd not taught you an important discipline.
Now, you can mock me for continuing to mention the issue of the chalice, but you evidently do not see that the claim that you must be believed because of your experience does not go well with, "Well, maybe things have changed," unless you add, "so I guess maybe you don't really have to believe me."
Your post 4757 this thread, addresses this issue:
So, all the priests can now go out and get married? And priests entering the priesthood can get married and do not have to take a vow of celibacy?
It certainly appears that you are questioning that the Church has married priests. Perhaps I am mistaken...