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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

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To: Quix
Thanks for that comprehensive post. Lots to digest.

A NBC report on chastity and the clergy found that "anywhere from 23 percent to 58 percent" of the Catholic clergy have a homosexual orientation. 7

Author and sociologist James G. Wolfe estimated that 48.5% of priests were gay. 8

(((gasp)))

4,921 posted on 09/14/2010 10:59:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Quix

Quix:

That article by John Shuster, the married RCC priest appears on my screen as clipped off at the right; can’t make it all out. Can we find a link specific to that article?


4,922 posted on 09/14/2010 11:00:36 PM PDT by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
>>"Oh, and thanks for the link. I'm reading an article..."

means I'm reading an article at the link given in the post I'm replying to.

4,923 posted on 09/14/2010 11:01:47 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Mad Dawg

I’m not going to help my opponents draw me into a rope-a-dope. They have to do some of the work.


LOVE IT. LOL.


4,924 posted on 09/14/2010 11:02:02 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: D-fendr

The question is waaay more simple than you’re making it out to be. It’s not a trick question. Honestly. It’s a question that was asked of me and I thought it was pretty interesting.

Why does one man believe and the guy next door doesn’t?

Is one man more pious, less stubborn, more intelligent than the other guy?

Certainly all men have different experiences. But that doesn’t explain it. Some men have horrible, painful lives and they are brought to faith. Others slide by with hardly a hair out of place and they can’t be bothered.

Or the other way around.

So what is it? We’re all human. We’re all fallible. What makes one of us believe and another of us rebuff that belief? What is it about these two human beings that is different; that leads us down separate paths?


4,925 posted on 09/14/2010 11:06:50 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Original sin is the reason for the fact all men are fallen."

No, it is the means by which all men are fallen. The reason is so that we must choose and achieve Salvation.

4,926 posted on 09/14/2010 11:07:04 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Legatus

PRICELESS.

SEVERAL BELLY LAUGHS.


4,927 posted on 09/14/2010 11:07:21 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: D-fendr

But you didn’t give us the link, the post, your reply or the author of the quote.


4,928 posted on 09/14/2010 11:07:35 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Running On Empty

A car full of singing family would have been precious.


4,929 posted on 09/14/2010 11:10:58 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"So JPII loved the Koran enough to kiss it?"

What a ridiculous statement. Did you think that up all by yourself?

JPII acknowledged the Abrahamic roots of the Bran. He hated the sin, but loved the sinners.

4,930 posted on 09/14/2010 11:14:37 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Natural Law; D-fendr
No, it (original sin) is the means by which all men are fallen. The reason is so that we must choose and achieve Salvation.

That is not what Scripture says. That doesn't even make much sense.

If the "reason" all men are fallen is that we must choose salvation, and yet some men DO choose salvation, then all men are not fallen.

You've negated your own assertion.

"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" -- Romans 5:12

Besides, New Advent agrees with me and Paul...

Original sin may be taken to mean: (1) the sin that Adam committed; (2) a consequence of this first sin, the hereditary stain with which we are born on account of our origin or descent from Adam.

From the earliest times the latter sense of the word was more common, as may be seen by St. Augustine's statement: "the deliberate sin of the first man is the cause of original sin" (De nupt. et concup., II, xxvi, 43). It is the hereditary stain that is dealt with here. As to the sin of Adam we have not to examine the circumstances in which it was committed nor make the exegesis of the third chapter of Genesis.


4,931 posted on 09/14/2010 11:15:39 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Certainly all men have different experiences. But that doesn’t explain it.

Different experiences, different people, different circumstances, different times of life: different choices; everyone has a story. Explains it to me.

It’s a question that was asked of me and I thought it was pretty interesting.

I find people's stories interesting, but they vary a lot. Some are similar to mine, but very few.

4,932 posted on 09/14/2010 11:15:53 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Legatus

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2578704/posts?page=4855#4855

Post 4855, I truly enjoyed reading that, thanks so much.

God bless you and your entire family.


4,933 posted on 09/14/2010 11:17:01 PM PDT by Joya
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To: Natural Law

HE KISSED THE KORAN!

A book that MANDATES the death of all Christians.

Insanity. I have more respect for the Roman Catholics who say JPII was old and enfeebled. At least that makes some sense.

To defend the indefensible only leads to more of the same.


4,934 posted on 09/14/2010 11:18:09 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

It was at the link in the post I replied to. If you’d asked for more specificity I’d have given it. Sheesh.


4,935 posted on 09/14/2010 11:18:49 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"That doesn't even make much sense."

Try reading it slowly. I can't dumb it down just for you.

4,936 posted on 09/14/2010 11:20:02 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: stfassisi; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

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4,937 posted on 09/14/2010 11:21:16 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: D-fendr

I’m not talking about people’s stories. I just want to know what you think is the reason why one man accepts Christ and another doesn’t.

That’s all. It’s not a difficult question. Think about it.


4,938 posted on 09/14/2010 11:21:38 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Natural Law

You’ve already dumbed it down and everyone who can read can see for themselves the nonsensical nature of your post.

Read New Advent. It agrees with me and not you.


4,939 posted on 09/14/2010 11:22:57 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Old Jewish saying:

God created man because He loves a good story.


4,940 posted on 09/14/2010 11:23:24 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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