Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
Second, Yes, O Legatus, you are right. You can say ALL Pentecostalists are wack jobs. You may not say to a particular Pentecostalist that he is a wack job.
The trick is to be able to stand by and watch truth and reason mangled and your loved ones abused while you remember that we are blessed when people utter all kinds of evil against us falsely on account of our being in the Church.
It's a hard exercise, but a good one.
Not a problem.
Most of the recycled scat is just white noise anymore. It’s the same very tired misinterpretations of Dogma and the constant stuttering clutter of silliness, stupidity that attempts to pass for wit, that causes most of us to avoid “discussion” and I use that word loosely, very loosely.
Good try though, brother!
Considering the amount of “broad brush” infective thrown in any thread relating to Catholicism along with the thinly veiled personal insults it amazes me the graciousness and patience many Catholic FReepers exhibit.
On the other hand the mods can’t be everywhere at all times, if they were they’d be called gods instead of mods.
It is my conclusion that the RM was alerted to it by one of the self righteous smugly arrogant haters that is also one of the worst purveyors of personal insult cleverly hidden behind the use of the word, y’all.
So...let me see if I understand the point you are making.
You write: “...given the Scriptural truth that out of the heart the mouth and fingers speak.”
I will understand, then, that this is something you sincerely believe and that you say it is a Scriptural truth.
Would you say, then, that this same truth applies to all that you post, in the past and up to now?
I'd like to develop this line of reasoning a bit. I try to pay attention to the guidance of the religion moderator but I'd like to know if I'm understanding this correctly:
If I write "Mad Dawg I really appreciate your contributions to this forum" that's making it personal but apparently in a good way.
If I write "I like the way you smear the heretic scum all over the place" it seems to me that's making it personal towards people I regard as heretics, especially if they know that's how I think.
If I write "Mad Dawg your continued use of the word 'thereoff' is, in my professional judgment, a sign of eccentricity run amok" that's making it personal, but if I address you and say "the excessive use of the word 'thereoff' is a sign of a mind gone bonkers"... apparently I'm not actually making it personal even though there's only one person in the entire forum that I know of who does that.
Beyond that, suppose I were to write "You are a fat, hairy, booger brain", that's clearly making it personal so I'm forced to write "All X are fat, hairy, booger brains" which may not be true even in my own opinion.
Maybe my point is that there are all sorts of tricks around the letter of the law and we have a lot of people hereon who have mastered the art of trickery... in big colorful fonts... hereon.
It truly is an herculean exercise of restraint to resist responding in kind to some of the more egregious things one reads here.
I suppose remembering the abuse Jesus endured as He was mocked and spat upon helps.
“It’s a trick to be able to stand by and watch.....”
I’ll say.
Meanwhile, some have become Masters at stilletto-type finessing, i.e.:
“that” is “cowardly”,( really meaning YOU are cowardly, “that” is “lunacy” (really implying that a certain other poster is a lunatic), and so on in this death-by-a-thousand-cuts kind of posting.
So, you've never had a post deleted? Is that correct?
"Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Lest you also be like him.
Answer a fool as his folly deserves, Lest he be wise in his own eyes."
(Prov. 26:4-5).
I would say well done, Legatus, but I don’t want to get personal or anything.
So instead I will say that when one writes what is an excellent piece of logical cogent thinking, that is something well done.
Reginald Firehammer.... doing his part for America by reminding us what a damned fool looks like.
I am still trying to figure out how the use of the collective y’all in particular and RC’s in general is not personal.
I understand that saying the RC belief is.......is itself not personal. But, that is a far cry from saying RC’s, as that would be short for Roman Catholics, people not beliefs.
I am a Roman Catholic and I am smart enough to understand that much of the garbage spewed here is indeed meant to personally defame and degrade me.
I know and accept this as a condition of being a FReeper and am only put off when the rules appear to be selectively enforced.
Um, I prefer to think of myself as a dieting, clean-shaven booger brain.
I think you have it more or less right. It ain’t about reason. It’s about preventing conflagrations.
I think the rules are, for the most part, about etiquette. They’re an attempt to keep the ‘adult’ at least marginally engaged. One can never effectively prevent insults and verbal abuse, but one can put a sort of damper on them.
I’m just troubled that I need the rules, and that we need them. What a totally lousy witness!
You booger-brain.
As long as it is under the guise of being plural, it's ok to use. In fact, you can use the singular "you", but when called on it by the moderator it can be claimed that it was meant as a plural "you". Then you're off the hook.
Clearly if you are a feelthy papist and I say all feelthy papists are evasive parsing liars I have insulted you. But only by implication.
It is to be hoped that somehow that distinction will help keep the forum from being completely disgraceful.
Plausible deniability. The only plausible thing posted by most of them.
I get it.
Y'all are fast learners. And I mean all of you.
I disagree.
Humans have an infinite capacity
to ‘CONSTRUCTive’ ENDLESSLY
. . . to RATIONALIZE . . . as CONSTRUCTIVE . . .
all manner of evil results.
I would say something like . . .
The logic steps one uses to arrive at
MARY = A TREE OF LIFE
Though I suspect many RC’s end up saying
MARY = THE TREE OF LIFE
THOSE STEPS ARE IRRELEVANT.
WHEN THE END RESULT IS ENCROACHING ON THE SANCTITY OF GOD—that thing which Ferraro cites that Mary ‘naturally’ has part in as, essentially, Jr part of the GOD QUARTET . . .
WHEN that’s the end result—it does not matter how one arrives there.
The young man has wonderful reasons for the nice dinner date, the flowers, the perfume, the jewelry, the artistic motivations to view his etchings . . . the unmarried pregnancy is still wrong.
This is punishment for unbelief, as St. Paul explains later in the same epistle:
Hagee, in is haste to condone the Jewish error of rejecting Jesus Christ (the Messiah) has fallen into that same blindness himself.
Some never seem to tire of fabricating reasons to do that.
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