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To: Jim Noble
Can one of you explain to me why this is opposed by lefty Catholics and a lot of religious?

I would encourage you to watch the Michael Voris video, Weapons of MASS Destruction. After that, I would also encourage you to read Pius X's encyclical, Pascendi, written back in 1907.

I am not certain that I buy a lot of the conspiratorial stuff that Voris has in his video, but the "Protestantation" of the Mass is very, very apparent. The soon-to-be-retired translation makes it far worse. Essentially changing the character of the Mass as a divine worship that is a figure of the divine worship currently going on in Heaven to a communal dinner.

I mean, look at the totally illicit acclamation: Christ has died, Christ has Risen, Christ will come again. Yes, that is a true statement...but its inclusion during the Eucharistic prayer has utterly nothing to do with the purpose of that Eucharistic prayer. (A re-presentation of the sacrifice at Calvary and offering the Sacred Body and Blood of Christ, a/k/a the Victim, as an oblation for the sins of the word)

They have managed to slide their modernist theology even more into the soon-to-be-retired mistranslation (even more than it is in the Novus Ordo mass in of itself). With a return to a more faithful translation from the Latin, some of the cards get knocked out. And a house of cards is very, very difficult to keep standing...particularly if one of the cards at the base is removed.

Lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi.

12 posted on 08/22/2010 5:24:02 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Salvation
Sorry, should have pinged you to #12.
13 posted on 08/22/2010 5:25:06 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: markomalley; sinkspur

“Lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi.”

When I first started posting here, sinky and other ‘Catholic’ posters attacked me viciously for saying things like that. Odd how times have changed.


22 posted on 08/22/2010 7:12:33 AM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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