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Need Help From RCC & Orthodox. Is Obama A Christian If He Believes That Jesus Isn't The Only Way?
8/19/2010 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 08/19/2010 9:41:47 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Obama said that he was a Christian and that he believed that "there are many paths to God." When asked by Falsani how he could reconcile that belief with the scripture where Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life... No man comes to the Father but by Me," Obama replied that it depends on how you interpret Jesus' words.

well… there are many paths to God. Of course Jesus Christ is God and once you get to Him there's only one path from there on out. But I'm pretty sure that's not remotely what 0 meant.

I'm convinced he's neither Christian nor muslim. He's a pragmatic opportunist who'll say whatever he needs to say to get whatever he wants at any given moment. He's Bill Clinton without the southern charm. I never knew I'd miss good old "President Libido".

Clinton didn't know the meaning of "is", 0 doesn't know the meaning of "I Am", what's next?

41 posted on 08/19/2010 4:36:06 PM PDT by Legatus
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To: Salvation

An answer to these two questions will tell us:

Does he love God above all else and keep holy the Sabbath?

Does he love his fellow man as he loves himself?


42 posted on 08/19/2010 4:55:37 PM PDT by Melian ("There is only one tragedy in the end, not to have been a saint." ~L. Bloy)
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To: Melian

Those are better than mine. You got me!


43 posted on 08/19/2010 5:00:15 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Well, he didn’t give his kids Christmas gifts and didn’t go to church on Christmas, they apparently don’t exchange birthday gifts, prior to election he attended a “Christian” church where a lot of un-Christian bigotry was taught, he doesn’t seem to attend any church since he was elected, he likes the idea of a mosque close to Ground Zero, he thinks the muslim morning prayers are the most beautiful sound in the world, he bows to muslim leaders every chance he gets, he looks thin and pale during Ramadan, he wears nasty Indonesian looking sandals out in public, his mother listed him as muslim on his passport, his middle name is Hussein, his father was muslim, his step-father was muslim, some of his relatives claim he’s muslim, he once slipped and said “my muslim faith” when speaking to a reporter, he’s made outrageous statements about America being one of the nations with the largest muslim populations (we are actually around the 45th largest), he’s made many more comments about islam than any other religion, and the Egyptian president said he told him he was muslim.

I’d say these things cast serious doubt on his Christianity.


44 posted on 08/19/2010 5:02:24 PM PDT by Melian ("There is only one tragedy in the end, not to have been a saint." ~L. Bloy)
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To: Salvation

No, we were both on the same track!


45 posted on 08/19/2010 5:03:23 PM PDT by Melian ("There is only one tragedy in the end, not to have been a saint." ~L. Bloy)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
based upon what I have read about the Nicene Creed, the Nicene Creed affirmed (among other things) that Jesus Christ was the only Way of salvation

It doesn't really address that topic; it says that Jesus became incarnate "for us men [meaning humans, not males] and for our salvation". The "only" part isn't addressed.

As to whether Obama is a Christian, I suppose it's possible that he is, at least in the strict juridical sense of having been validly baptized and not having committed formal apostasy.

But then again, the same could be said of Judas Iscariot.

46 posted on 08/19/2010 5:33:07 PM PDT by Campion
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Here is your answer,

Jesus Christ said " I AM the WAY, I AM the TRUTH, and I AM the LIFE, no man can come to the father , but by me " ......
That says it all, and the fact that he says that Jesus Christ is not the only way, means, he has denied Christ, and denies Jesus Christ's deity.
47 posted on 08/20/2010 1:38:28 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Salvation
Going to Church regularly, and keeping the Ten Commandments does not make one a Christian, believing in Jesus Christ, and that he is the only way to your salvation does.
48 posted on 08/20/2010 1:40:08 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Westbrook
Actually, when those who say that there are many paths to GOD, are in fact, a Christ denier, plain and simple, there is no other way around that.
They deny Jesus Christ's deity.
That is what is behind those car bumper stickers that say " COEXSIST " as in to say, that one can find many ways to GOD other than Christ.
49 posted on 08/20/2010 1:44:18 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: homegroan
That's why we are hated, if they hated him for saying that, they will also hate us for saying that because they don't want to believe in Jesus Christ and his only way to GOD.
They call us narrow minded, well, DUH !!! ( some translations say, Narrow, other's say straight gate ) " GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) "Enter through the narrow gate because the gate and road that lead to destruction are wide. Many enter through the wide gate.

King James Bible Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Jesus said in Matthew 7:13 "

Jesus also said that he is the door of the sheep gate, and that others who came before him were thieves and liars.
So in effect ? when Obama says there are other ways to GOD other than Jesus Christ, he is a false prophet.
Since he has denied Jesus Christ, and the deity of Jesus Christ, he has denied the faith.
FALSE PROPHET !
50 posted on 08/20/2010 1:53:56 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Grunthor
The Ten Commandments and the Laws were given to show us the need for a Savior, and to govern Israel until the fullness of time for the Messiah to come.
It showed us how much we broke God's holy laws.
Nothing but the sacrificial blood of the once and for all, one time event, remission of all sins, can save you, the blood of Jesus Christ.
No matter how true, honest, and hard they strived to keep the law, they still had to have the high priest come to GOD and bring a spotless lamb for the nation of Israel's sins for one year.
If by ( keeping )i.e.: keeping, practicing, for the Ten Commandments and the Law were holy ) the law could have brought them righteousness, and covered their sins, there would have been no need for the sacrificial lamb's blood.
Nothing but the blood of Jesus Christ.
51 posted on 08/20/2010 2:08:24 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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