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To: caww

Yeah, she may be mad at us. But her Son won’t be because him himself elevated her to a place of honor. Lk 11:27-28.

Do you honor your mother? Does a son who doesn’t honor his mother commit a sin? I think there’s a commandment about that. If Jesus was God incarnate, do you think he failed to honor his mother and sinned and broke one of the Ten Commandments he commanded the rich young ruler to keep?

I’d be less concerned about what Mary’s going to say to you than what Jesus is going to say to you. Whaddya mean, there’s no need to honor my Mother? She’s my mother, for goodness sake. I’m her Son. You better believe that I honor her and I want all my followers to honor her.”

On the other hand, maybe Jesus doesn’t really care whether you honor your mother or His.

And then there’s the little problem that His Cousin Elizabeth honored Mary PRECISELY because she was carrying in her womb Elizabeth’s Lord, recognized by Elizabeth’s unborn baby John. Elizabeth explicitly called Mary “the Mother of my Lord” and “Lord” here means GOD. And Elizabeth said that she, Elizabeth, was not worthy to be visited by the mother of her Lord.

Sounds like giving Mary a whole lot of extra honor.

I guess Mary blew her top at that silly old Elizabeth. Why she was probably even disgusted with her as she will be with the rest of us for honoring her.

Oh, wait, Mary went on to say that all generations would honor her because God had visited her and made her the mother of the redeemer? That’s right there in Scripture. In Luke.

Doesn’t sound like Mary’s too disgusted with Elizabeth for honoring her, Mary. Sounds like Mary is saying, Hey Coz, you’re darn tooting that people are going to honor me, not because of anything I’ve done but because of what is growing in my womb.

Anyway, you are worried that Mary will be disgusted. I’m more concerned about what Christ will have to say. See, for us Catholics and Orthodox, Jesus Christ is what really matters. His Mother matters to us because, well
she
was
his
Mother.

And that’s special.


98 posted on 08/15/2010 7:44:47 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.
But her Son won’t be because him himself elevated her to a place of honor. Lk 11:27-28.

This is the kind of stuff that makes me believe Catholicism is a cult.

Lets paste Luke 11.27-28 in here ...

27 While Jesus was saying these things, one of the women in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, "Blessed is the womb that bore You and the breasts at which You nursed."

28 But He said, "On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it."

Now where in this universe is there anything mentioned about Jesus elevating Mary to a position of honor in this passage?

105 posted on 08/15/2010 8:00:32 PM PDT by dartuser ("Palin 2012 ... nothing else will do.")
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To: Houghton M.
Jesus never once asked us to pray to Mary...not once...and no catholic will ever be able to support that we are to pray to anyone but Christ. I've seen the arguments time and again on these threads and they never will hold up to the scriptures....never will.

You continue to put your argument on a human level...as if my sons relationship to me is even remotely a comparison. My son is not the Christ....my son is no the Savior of mankind.

If you are going to use the ridiculous comparison of our human relationships then let me say any Mother who would see her son go thru all Christ did would be rolling in her grave if you elevated her. Mothers are proud of their sons accomplishments...they are warmed in heart and mind...but never want any praise themselves for their sons accomplishments....They want their sons to have the glory due them....and never desire such themselves....so if you are going to use such a crazy comparison due it right!

Jesus asks me to honor Him above all else...I don't need nor do I desire to seek his dead mother for anything and neither should anyone else. We are called to serve Him...not Mary...to love and adore Him...not Mary....to Worship ONLY Him...not Mary or anyone else who sets themselves up above or equal to Christ.

One can honor Mary for giving birth to our Savior without parading phony plastic statues thru the streets or bowing down before them. That is just way off the scale God ever intended. You people fail to hear even Mary's own words saying....”Whatever He asks..do” .....not at all related to her she directs the people to Him....dah!

You catholics see Mary far more than special as Christ's mother.....your own literature and prayers magnify her and worship her....some even place her as equal to and or above Christ...this is just plain wrong and I have no problem stating this is so.

112 posted on 08/15/2010 8:07:39 PM PDT by caww
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