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To: trapped_in_LA
No, I mean where in the Bible is Mary shown as sinning? As to the Immaculate Conception, that has to be understood in the context of Mary as the ark of the new covenant. How could the Son of God enter into an impure vessel? One answer would be that she was purified at the time of the Annunciation. But evangelicals seems to deny even that, saying that she remained a sinner. That seems unlikely. The early Church spoke of Mary as the New Eve, as obedient to God's will as the first Even was disobedient. But the first Even was created without sin, and why not the new Eve? We believe that God created the perfect rectacle for his Incarnation. The alternative view that the Virgin Birth was simply a sign that Jesus was more exaulted than John the Baptist lendsitself--we think--to the Arian view which has it it that Jesus was no more than a man.
178 posted on 08/15/2010 11:05:14 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS

“No, I mean where in the Bible is Mary shown as sinning?”

Oh come on! Use a little common sense, please! There are ton’s of people in the Bible that were not “shown as sinning”, does that mean that they are sinless? How about Joseph? No where in the long story does he sin so I guess that means that he’s sinless. I’m not shown as sinning in the Bible so I must be sinless as well! What a crock! You put something that isn’t there (Mary’s sinlessness) but willfully ignore what the Bible clearly states (we all ALL sinners, no exceptions other than Jesus are ever stated and his sinlessness is explicitly stated several times!).

Other than that all that you’ve written is a bunch of non-sense. They don’t even hold together very well as an analogy of Adam and Eve (Eve was created from Adam — Christ was created from Mary? sorry sequence doesn’t work if it was an analogy it should be Mary was created from Christ but that isn’t what happened.).


180 posted on 08/15/2010 11:28:11 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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