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The Catholic encyclopedia definition is ambiguous and fallible

I certainly isn't ambiguous regarding the issue at hand; it unambiguously states that EENS does not mean what you claim. The Catholic Encyclopedia, by the way, is published with approval of an Archbishop. If an Archbiship is not good enough for you, I give you Dominus Iesus, written by Cardinal Ratzinger and approved by JPII. Here's an excerpt:

The Church is the “universal sacrament of salvation”,79 since, united always in a mysterious way to the Saviour Jesus Christ, her Head, and subordinated to him, she has, in God's plan, an indispensable relationship with the salvation of every human being.80 For those who are not formally and visibly members of the Church, “salvation in Christ is accessible by virtue of a grace which, while having a mysterious relationship to the Church, does not make them formally part of the Church, but enlightens them in a way which is accommodated to their spiritual and material situation. This grace comes from Christ; it is the result of his sacrifice and is communicated by the Holy Spirit”;81 it has a relationship with the Church, which “according to the plan of the Father, has her origin in the mission of the Son and the Holy Spirit”.82

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re: I certainly isn't ambiguous regarding the issue at hand; it unambiguously states that EENS does not mean what you claim.

A fallible ambigously article from an encyclopedia, written by one man, you make your own dogma, because that is what you want to hear.

A clear precise dogma, you deny, because it is not what you want to hear. "nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ",

It's that simple!

“The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives; that the unity of this ecclesiastical body is of such importance that only those who abide in it do the Church’s sacraments contribute to salvation and do fasts, almsgiving and other works of piety and practices of the Christian militia productive of eternal rewards; and that nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ, unless he has persevered in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”