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To: verdugo
Many have proved invincibly, from the sentiments of the Fathers - among others: St. Augustine, St. Ephem, St. Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Germanus of Constantinople, St, John Damascene, St. Anselm, St. Bernard, St. Bernardine, St. Thomas, and St. Bonaventure - that devotion to Our Most Blessed Virgin is necessary for salvation, and that it is an infallible mark of reprobation to have no esteem or love for the Holy Virgin while, on the other hand, it is an infallible mark of predestination to be entirely and truly devoted to her. St Louis Marie de Montfort

Vatican II stated that Protestants and other non-Catholics (who certainly are not devoted to Mary) can be saved. How do you reconcile this?
255 posted on 08/13/2010 9:03:27 PM PDT by armydoc
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re: Vatican II stated that Protestants and other non-Catholics (who certainly are not devoted to Mary) can be saved.

Please post exactly what Vatican II said.

267 posted on 08/14/2010 1:13:19 PM PDT by verdugo
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To: armydoc
"Many have proved invincibly, from the sentiments of the Fathers - among others: St. Augustine, St. Ephrem, St. Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Germanus of Constantinople, St, John Damascene, St. Anselm, St. Bernard, St. Bernardine, St. Thomas, and St. Bonaventure - that devotion to Our Most Blessed Virgin is necessary for salvation, and that it is an infallible mark of reprobation to have no esteem or love for the Holy Virgin while, on the other hand, it is an infallible mark of predestination to be entirely and truly devoted to her." St Louis Marie de Montfort

Devotion, esteem or love for Our Blessed Mother only comes about by the grace of God. It is a sign that one has God's grace, for to a man without God's grace the true Faith will always appear as folly.

People who have no esteem for the Mother of God, have not God's Grace. Some because there time has not yet come, others because they have rejected God's Grace.

287 posted on 08/16/2010 6:36:08 PM PDT by verdugo
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