Muslims and Latter-day Saints Mormon (OPEN)

Cumorah.com ^ | David Stewart

[Tennessee Nana]

See you at the Nephite ruins expo!
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Is that the event that starts on the Twelfth of Never ???

(Apologies to Elvis Presley)

[ejonesie22]

So show us that this recognized site is in error and is presenting unofficial LDS ideas using official sources.

Show us that the quotes they use from Mormon leaders about Islam were never said, were repudiated by those they were attributed to.

Make it simple, show us where LDS “Apostle” George Q. Cannon repudiated his comment quoted at the site.

PROVE US WRONG!

(for once..)

[ejonesie22]

No, but it is is a traveling show. Started upper state New York 180 years ago, with stops in the great lakes, mid west, south west, Mexico and now trying to hire on Aztecs as players...

Or was that Mayans, antiquities theft is so distasteful...

[Tennessee Nana]

I heard that an angel once stole some ancient golden plates once...

Right out of Joey Smiths hands...

Wasnt that nasty, mean, small of her/him/it to do that ???

[Reno232]

Is the point eluding you, or is this just more misdirection? The Westboro Baptist Church has a “recognized” “Christian” website. Would that site be considered authoritative as to your beliefs? Could it be considered an official deposit of “Christian” beliefs?

Or perhaps, would it be considered one man/church’s beliefs within the whole landscape called “Christianity”?

The Cumorah website is opinion, not official doctrine. LDS are not beholden or constrained to those OPINIONS any more than you are to Fred Phelps’.

Have a great weekend

[ejonesie22]

I can show where Westboro is wrong or at the very lest state clearly and concisely that I disagree with something they say and why. Are you willing to dispute what this recognized site is saying and why, using your doctrine if need be to back it up? Are you willing to say in very simple and unambiguous terms that Cannon was misquoted and demonstrate it?

Also your argued GF was presenting it as “Official” which she DID NOT. So you go down another blind ally with the Westboro slight of hand, but that's fine, I can deal with it. It is easy when truth and clarity is on your side.

I keep thinking one of these days one of you guys will come straight out with no parsing, no rhetorical tricks and just BOOM have a factual unambiguous clear and concise refutation of something susbtative, something the requires no excuses, no “you are just trying to play tricks” while being the ones actually playing the word games, no stabs at victim hood or “you guys are just haters. I long for a definitive honest and head on answer.

I know it won't happen, mainly do to the subject of the LDS and it's nature, but it would be real interesting.

[Tennessee Nana]

Bottom line...

The mormons are playing kissy face wth the moslems...

Whether or not the mormons admit it in their “official” doctrines...

Its in there with Joey Smith had 40+ “wives” /one night stands...

“Oh no he didnt because the mormons dont have that in their websites...” (Mormon apologist)

[greyfoxx39]

More Fred Phelps crap.

[ejonesie22]

Westboro is not exactly a “recognized” Christian site either, at least not among the sane. But it's fun to play along sometime since the attempt at deception is rather weak and easy to overcome.

[Reno232]

More sleight of hand irony? I admire your tenacity to some extent.

I do dispute w/ some of what is said on the site. But that’s my opinion, just as theirs is theirs, & yours is yours. The quote from Cannon is a snippet & I don’t know what the context was. Regardless, it was his opinion.

Men of God have, from time to time had opinions, & some were wrong. A rather classic, albeit not solitary example, are the apostles Peter & Paul. Even though they agreed on the core principles of the gospel, they had disagreements & differing opinions on certain matters as recorded in the Bible. Does that mean that their word was not to trusted on the core doctrines? Of course not.

So perhaps we can move beyond this ruse.

As far as GF’s presentation is concerned, although she didn’t use the word “official”, it certainly seemed to be the indirect implication she was making. Reading her posts as well as the very title of the thread would lead to no other conclusion. She, as well as others, seemed to be inferring that these opinions stated were those of the church. Are you trying to suggest otherwise?

As far as the type of discussion you long for as described in you last post, again the irony is simply delicious. One look at the respective posting histories of our tete-a-tete’s would lead many to scratch their head in wonderment about your statement.

You folks seem quite committed to you latest campaign of suggesting that we have never engaged in substantive discussion w/ you folks. Albeit, I for one don’t engage as frequently as in the past due to work concerns & my aversion to circular debates, one look at my posting history, as well as many others here, would show the total nonsense of that assertion.

I’m headed out of town for a short trip. Enjoy your weekend. Get out for a bit.

[Reno232]

Okay. Well, let’s make this a little easier then. How about the Catholic websites? They’re fellow Christians. Do they have the all encompassing perspective regarding your views on Christianity?

They’re Christians, you’re a Christian. You thus believe in the Pope right? You believe the Protestant churches are apostate right?

You folks are a hoot!

[Reno232]

You’re whining/pinging to the RM? After this thread? Will the irony stop? If nothing else, you’ve added laughter to my day. That’s a good thing. Thank you.

[ejonesie22]

No boom.

Got to keep my expectations real.

[Tennessee Nana]

How about the Catholic websites? They’re fellow Christians.
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The Catholics are fellow Christians with the Protestants and the Orthodox...

But this thread is about mormons and Moslems

Moslems are not Christians

Mormons are nor Christians

Please stay on topic, Reno...

[ejonesie22]

I love the Pope, we agree on numerous issues. There are some procedural and liturgical items that we differ on, but those can be delt with. We love the lord, follow the real Jesus and know there is only one God. Indeed I found a really good Sunday school lesson once on the Catholic Churches website I used at my Methodist Church.

I very much enjoyed my time some many years ago listening to JPII speak with a number of fellow Christians, Catholic and non Catholic alike. There were no calls of heretic or anything, just rapturous applause and amens as he spoke, even from a few Southern Baptist.

So there seems to be a lot less there than your LDS friends and an apostles declaring Muslims are following the same god and are brothers.

Keeping my expectations real...

and low...

[ejonesie22]

BTW, interesting point that just hit me.

You ask me about how I feel as a none Catholic about the Pope. However we are from different denominations, some you LDS love to make hay over. We should have some differences.

But your buddies at Cumhorah.com are part of the ONE TRUE CHURCH.

So why the disagreement?

[Tennessee Nana]

But your buddies at Cumhorah.com are part of the ONE TRUE CHURCH.

So why the disagreement?
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The folks at Cumorah have been passing out mormon secret errr sacred well them there decoder rings to us infidel apostate Christians...

and we didnt even buy a box of Mormon Munchies...

[Tennessee Nana]

Similarities can be found between the “Five Pillars of Islam” and LDS beliefs. Latter-day Saints
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Gosh similarities can be found between the “Two Pillars of Barbarism” of the first Republican Party platform, namely polygamy and slavery, and LDS beliefs. ...

[SZonian]

"SZonian, you are trying to say something but I do not understand?"

I'll "help you understand", IF that is your true intention based on your question.

Everything I needed to know about islam, I learned on 9/11. Is that easy enough to "understand"? Besides their inability to practice their "religion" peacefully as a whole, the subjugation of women, the violence, the political system of sharia, etc. Sorry, no sale.

And for those who have their heads in the sand, diversity is a product of PC. Hence, socialists, libtards, etc.

I have no use for any of it.

"My reply has only to do with seeing the good in others!"

Then look for good outside of islam, otherwise, I suspect it's a counter to the words of your church leaders and their embracing of islam.

[SZonian]

Is there ANYTHING remotely incorrect or false about the quotes of LdS leaders in the body of the OP?

Yours could also be considered "sleight of hand" by going after the poster by neglecting the NOTE the poster inserted at the very beginning of the material.

FAIL.