Posted on 08/09/2010 9:25:20 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
A recent poll by the Public Religion Research Institute showed that a majority of California Catholics supports the legalization of same-sex “marriage,” while their Protestant counterparts oppose such counterfeit “marriage” by a much higher margin.
While the July 21 poll did not discriminate between Catholics who attend Mass regularly and those who do not, it also did not discriminate between Protestants who attend religious services regularly. In either case, the poll allowed respondents to self-identify as Catholic or Protestant.
What the poll showed is that Protestants are much more in line with Church teaching on the issue of marriage than are Catholics themselves. Those disturbing results beg the question: What is the Church in California teaching its flock?
While there are some unambiguous hierarchical voices on the issue, such as Bishop Salvatore Cordileone of Oakland, effective Church teaching happens at the parish level. The poll reported: “The messages about homosexuality that Californians hear at their place of worship are correlated with their views on same-sex marriage. Among Californians who report hearing negative messages from their clergy, few (19%) support same-sex marriage. In striking contrast, among Californians who report hearing positive messages from their clergy, fully 6 in 10 say gay and lesbian people should be allowed to marry…”
In other words, when the pastor speaks out for or against same-sex “marriage,” the congregation listens. So why do Protestants support Catholic teaching on marriage at higher rates than Catholics themselves? The poll found: “Protestants are significantly more likely to hear about the issue than Catholics; this is true both for white Catholics and Latino Catholics.”
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....when the pastor speaks out for or against same-sex “marriage,” the congregation listens. So why do Protestants support Catholic teaching on marriage at higher rates than Catholics themselves? The poll found: “Protestants are significantly more likely to hear about the issue than Catholics; this is true both for white Catholics and Latino Catholics”....
....With such public same-sex “marriages” between parishioners who hold important positions at a well-known parish, it should not be such a surprise that a majority of California Catholics don’t take Church teaching on the issue seriously, especially when an archbishop re-appoints the parish’s pastor.
Many self-described Roman Catholics are not Roman Catholics.
Just like many self-described Jewish people are not Jewish.
It’s almost an ethnic idenity, instead of a religion for some.
When a non-Roman Catholic Christian ceases to follow Christ, he or she is decribed as “secular” or “atheist” -— but atheist or secular Roman Catholics still call themselves Roman Catholic.
No idea why.
It might have something to do with the fact that it’s been gays teaching them from the pulpit for a long time now.
In other words, when the pastor speaks out for or against same-sex “marriage,” the congregation listens. So why do Protestants support Catholic teaching on marriage at higher rates than Catholics themselves?”
Well, I’d say it’s because Protestants don’t view it as specifically Catholic teaching, rather their understanding of marriage is a Biblical mandate (which is a correct view).
If they listen to Cardinal Mahoney or priests like him, they are not getting Biblical doctrine. They go to mass like robots, and never actually read their Bible. Yes this happens in all denominations.
C’mon.....it’s California; this is a “filler” piece.
Has anyone looked into the number people in America that believe they are Catholic and compared that to the number of Catholics that the Vatican claims are in America?
My guess is that the numbers would match the claims of the Vatican.
“My guess is that the numbers would match the claims of the Vatican.”
That’s not particularly relevant to my point.
Nancy Pelosi was baptised, confirmed, and regularly attends her Roman Catholic Church.
She’s about as Roman Catholic as my Pit Bull, Mohammed.
That’s just it, Nancy Pelosi is a Catholic whether you agree with her politics are not.
I refuse to define anyone as Roman Catholic who is not a Christian first.
She completely rejects the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church and shows no fruits of the spirit.
This is an adult political site, when we are trying to discuss elections and politicians and strategies, it serves no purpose when some one says childish things like, don’t analyze the Catholic vote because real Catholics only vote my way, so those Catholic voters that you are strategizing about are not Catholics.
The claim is that the Catholic vote is 100% pure and Republican because only Catholics that vote Republican are Catholic, and no, we will not be changing the numbers of claimed Catholics in America by reducing them by the 54% of Catholic voters that voted for Obama.
In other words, there is nothing here to see, so just move on to some other area of voter study and analysis, and your conservative goals be damned in the name of denial of facts related to the Catholic vote in America.
That’s not what I am saying at all.
I am saying that a large number of Roman Catholics treat Roman Catholism as a social club, not a church.
“Social Club” Roman Catholics who reject the teachings of the chuch, but still call themselves Roman Catholic, are not unique to Roman Catholism, but it is more pronounced than, say, Baptists, who cease to identify as Baptists.
Same with the Jews.
“I would rather have good practicing protestants than bad Catholics.”
No joke.
Serious Christians of all stripes agree on 99.99999 of morality and 98% of theology, the 2% being stuff that will either be right or wrong, but not matter in the end.
Pelosi is a Catholic in good standing, she has not been excommunicated.
Your politics are in the minority among Catholics, Pelosi is a Democrat and is a leader in the party that represents the majority of Catholic voters. Catholics are a Democrat voting block.
Please read post 7, and post 12. This slip sliding around and blatant dishonesty gets tiring.
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