[presently no screen name]

Word challenge? Is that the best you got?

but Jesus has given us the sacraments to impart the graces necessary to obtain eternal salvation.

The statement says the graces are necessary. It does not say the sacraments are absolutely necessary.

So what Jesus gave you - the sacraments - to impart the graces necessary to obtain eternal salvation are NOT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

but Jesus has given us the sacraments; although they are NOT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY, to impart the graces necessary to obtain eternal salvation.

Is that better - I'm trying to help you guys stay on the same page, deceptive as it is.

[Mad Dawg]

So what Jesus gave you - the sacraments - to impart the graces necessary to obtain eternal salvation are NOT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

That is correct. It is what I have said, it is in the catechism, it is generally agreed. The graces are necessary. The sacraments are "ordinarily," but not absolutely, necessary.

D-fendr's tag is "God is not bound by the sacrament, but man is."

But I see you want this to be personal. Fine. Make it personal with somebody else.