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To: RnMomof7
Paganism says it all ... the "veneration of saints" is traced to the pagan Constantine

That is totally false. Your website is a bogus source.

This Catholic Encyclopedia passage is based on unquestioned historical evidense:

"Christians from the very beginning adorned their catacombs with paintings of Christ, of the saints, of scenes from the Bible and allegorical groups is too obvious and too well known for it to be necessary to insist upon the fact. The catacombs are the cradle of all Christian art. Since their discovery in the sixteenth century — on 31 May, 1578, an accident revealed part of the catacomb in the Via Salaria — and the investigation of their contents that has gone on steadily ever since, we are able to reconstruct an exact idea of the paintings that adorned them. That the first Christians had any sort of prejudice against images, pictures, or statues is a myth (defended amongst others by Erasmus) that has been abundantly dispelled by all students of Christian archaeology. The idea that they must have feared the danger of idolatry among their new converts is disproved in the simplest way by the pictures even statues, that remain from the first centuries. Even the Jewish Christians had no reason to be prejudiced against pictures, as we have seen; still less had the Gentile communities any such feeling. They accepted the art of their time and used it, as well as a poor and persecuted community could, to express their religious ideas."

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07664a.htm

76 posted on 08/05/2010 4:52:22 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Do you KNOW when Constantine paganize the church?

Glad my source is biased but your catholic source is not LOL

“410, when the Goths laid siege to Rome for months, devastated the surrounding country, and plundered the city itself. This naturally put an end to burial in the catacombs.”(Catholic encyclopedia)

That was after Constantine


81 posted on 08/05/2010 5:00:11 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: mas cerveza por favor

No. People become Catholic when they realize the unbiblical heresy of Protestant teaching on salvation.


85 posted on 08/05/2010 5:03:19 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor
This bigoted website has been pandered about many times to mislead the faithful. Those wallowing in Evangelicalism tend to be poorly educated and frequent websites which cater to their bigoted views.

Reputable historians including the secular agnostic types acknowledge that Catholicism started with Jesus in the 1st Cent and only those who are in the UFO mode believe that Constantine started the Church. The Emperor Diocletian 280 310, the predecessor of Constantine, orchestrated one of the largest persecutions of Catholicism . But these erudite Evangelicals don't let facts stand in their mindless way.

95 posted on 08/05/2010 5:30:34 PM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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