Posted on 08/05/2010 10:30:41 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
Right.
Catholic Europe is going to crumble and will be replaced by a joyous Protestant springtime in which Europe's citizens will spontaneously embrace the spiritual heritage of Luther, Calvin and Zwingli et al.
What planet are you on? Does joy over what's happening to the Catholic Church in Europe blind you to the bigger picture on that continent? Europe is in the middle of a great apostasy and is casting off its Christian heritage (indulge me a little here and allow me to include the Catholic Church as part of the "Christian" Church). In the short and medium term, there is going to be no Christian revival in Europe, Catholic or Protestant, got that? There is going to be an Islamic onslaught which will blow away all the nominal, lukewarm and newly apostate former believers of all stripes.
What comes out of that is open to debate but I'll bet my house it won't be a Calvinist nirvana.
How many signers of the Declaration of Independence were Roman Catholic?
One. And he attended none of the debates. He simply showed up to sign the document.
What can I say? I’m an optimist. God’s word does not fail.
You've got it backwards.
As the practice of Catholicism has fallen, formerly Catholic countries have instead started looking to the government to fill the spiritual void. Result; socialism. Entirely predictable.
There is a much better case to be made that the Catholic Church played a major part in ridding Europe of the biggest socialist super states of all behind the Iron Curtain.
No beer handy at the moment....
You think Catholics haven't contributed sufficiently to the greatness of this nation?
Should we count the number of Jewish signers (zero) and asses their contribution to our Republic based upon that ‘slice of history’?
Any Christian who directs their fire at other Christians in this day and age is blind with sectarian hatred.
Sorry your Church isn't as historic and influential as the Catholic faith - may-hap you can get over it, I did.
My apologies.
Here: Britons losing religious beliefs
Quote:"The current number of communicant members of the Church of Scotland is 504,000 – down from more than 1 million in 1976."
You wrote:
“France has been on a downward spiral since Rome ordered the slaughter of thousands of French Huguenots.”
1) Rome never ordered any slaughter of Hugenots. The lie of your claim will be shown when you fail to any evidence for it.
2) France’s greatest days were from the late 15th century to the early 19th century. In other words, four out of the five greatest centuries of France’s life were AFTER the slaughter of the Hugenots by supporters of the French monarchy. Coincidence?
You wrote:
“But you know what they say about people in glass houses...”
Yes, we say, “Glass houses are built and broken by anti-Catholics.”
Well, Peter was married - and they claim he was the first pope.
RCC subjects call themselves Catholics, not Christians. Go on a Catholic Caucus thread and you get - Are you Catholic, Are you Catholic? No, Christian. Well, you have to get off of this thread. And ONE Catholic poster PM’d someone and said to come back TO APOLOGIZE! LOL!
Seen that many times. Catholics KNOW they aren’t Christians. And Christians KNOW they aren’t Catholic.
Christians follow Christ, not man.
The state of Christianity in Europe is tragic, far worse than it is in the US.
I wish the author would have done a bit better job outlining the function of the Church in the social order prior to the mid-19th century.
Unfortunately, there will be Catholic-bashers who will laud the increased role of the state (they think they are lauding the decreased role of the Church...but one must go hand in hand with the other). Pity that their hatred of the Church is so vitriolic that they would rather have a godless officially atheist state rather than the Church. A real pity, Alex.
(to others, if I missed your name, sorry)
Mindreading? Or just making this personal?
But I guess according to you they were not Christian.
Pffffft. What garbage.
“But I thought we were the Judean Peoples Front!”
“No! Were the Peoples Front of Judea!”
“SPLITTERS!!!”
Making it personal.
But it wasn't directed at you.
I'm sure it was just a coincidence that I was the only non-Catholic FReeper that you pinged, and the only person (Catholic or otherwise) that you mentioned by name in your reply.
Shalom.
This has been endlessly refuted, yet the same tired canard is repeated over and over again.
It is false. Got that? False. Wrong. Untrue.
I'm not going to bother with the details; I don't have time.
Bless you Brother-I was not writing about people pretending to have faith. But people who lost faith. The Ha ha was to show denouement of the person’s idea on that post.
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