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To: ansel12

That was cute, sending Christians to Mormon sites for the “truth” about the non-Christian Mormon religion.

I think that it would be more relevant to send Christians to their particular Christian denomination’s statement on the non-Christian religion of Mormonism.


You must have missed the part where I said read and talk to both sides of the issues.

And members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints are very much Christian.


49 posted on 08/05/2010 12:11:50 PM PDT by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender

Someone is wrong, either all the Christian denominations scholars, or else the cult that a Missouri guy created in the 1800s. Christianity seems unified in the analysis that the Joe Smith religion is a different religion than Christianity.

“The Decree on Ecumenism (Unitatis Redintegratio) of Vatican II teaches that “all who have been justified by faith in baptism are members of Christ’s body, and have a right to be called Christian, and so are correctly accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church.”

Because Mormonism is polytheistic and rejects the Trinity, Mormon baptism is not valid, and Mormons are not considered separated brethren. For the same reason, outreach to them, while certainly a good thing, is not ecumenism, though it can include dialogue and social cooperation as well as efforts to evangelize them.”


51 posted on 08/05/2010 12:47:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Paragon Defender; ansel12
And members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints are very much Christian.

Tell us, PD, what kind of "Christians" exist who...
...believe many true gods exist? [by definition, polytheism vs. Christian monotheism]
...believe Heavenly Father didn't exist as God from eternity? [he became a god]
...believe that you, too, can join God as a fellow-god in the "council of gods"? [by all means, let's "grow" polytheism 'cause we don't have enough people on earth thinking they are "divine"]
...and then defines "salvation" to include non-temple Mormons & "non-Mormons" who will reach a level of "salvation" -- yet defines that to mean they won't live eternally with Heavenly Father? [in light of John 17:3, what kind of false "salvation" is this you're peddling when the God of salvation is excluded from the very eternal-life relationship proclaimed in the Christian gospel???]

Until Mormons can begin to answer these 4 basic questions in a "straightforward" manner (for once), I suggest they quit banding about "Christian" so loosely.

(And for those who might suggest I'm a bit narrow-minded on this, be consistent: If you're going to challenge me on this, then I'm going to ask you if you think mainstream Mormons have a right to define "Mormonism" and exclude fundamentalist, polygamist Mormons from being referenced as "Mormons." If they have a "right" to distinguish themselves from the fLDS, then Christians are simply claiming the same privilege).

54 posted on 08/05/2010 1:54:44 PM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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