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To: BenKenobi; NYer
“Do you know allot of Catholics vote for Demoncrats in the name of “social justice”? Many Catholics voted for Obama and see what he stands for being in line with Catholic teachings.’

And so did many protestants, especially mainstream protestants.”

That was my silent point to Nyer. The Catholic Church advocates “social justice”. Just what is that? Why, it's what Obama wants - leveling the financial playing field through wealth redistribution. Then life on earth will be “fair”. This has more appeal to Catholic over Protestants.

My direct points were these:

“Luther opened Pandora's box when he said anyone could interpret scripture. Here is yet another victim.”
Really?

How do you explain “gay” Priests?

They're not “anti-gay” either.

Do you know allot of Catholics vote for Demoncrats in the name of “social justice”? Many Catholics voted for Obama and see what he stands for being in line with Catholic teachings.

If I were you, I'd pipe down and save my venom for the individual rather than broad brush a group, namely Protestants, that you HATE.

The Catholic Church has more than enough embarrassment and wrong headed teachings. Thankfully Luther brought singing back into the church by the congregation and pointed out it is FAITH that saves you, not works. Faith is dead without works but it is FAITH that has you doing works for Him through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

Eph. 2:8&9

[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

[9] Not of works, lest any man should boast.

The Catholic Church is having HUGE financial problems due to paying off folks molested by Priests. Oh, the church could easily get in the black, if they sold off some useless relics but they won't do that ... .

I am not “anti Catholic”. I find it sad that MANY Catholic Schools are closing. Catholics do acknowledge Christ and there is some common ground but if I were you, I certainly wouldn't be haughty about Catholicism and the never ending scandals etc. that are nonstop with the Catholic Church.

What we have here, is a woman that never knew Christ. If she did, she wouldn't be making such silly statements. Her statements are opposite what is written in the Bible. Like others, she is creating her own humanistic religion. This is nothing new ... .

Perhaps you could gently ask NYer to keep her Protestant hostility to a low roar. I've never read in the Bible that we are to HATE and PROVOKE others to anger. I find her comments deplorable,unnecessary and a nasty attempt to hijack the thread to an off topic. I fail to see “love” in them.

NYer's unnecessary remarks were out of the blue, haughty and certainly unchristian. Perhaps she should spend some time with the Bible? Her actions are certainly not applauded by Christ! How is Nyer so much better than this lost soul who the thread is about? Neither seems to "get it".

65 posted on 07/30/2010 9:58:50 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh; NYer
That was my silent point to Nyer. The Catholic Church advocates “social justice”. Just what is that? Why, it's what Obama wants - leveling the financial playing field through wealth redistribution. Then life on earth will be “fair”. This has more appeal to Catholic over Protestants.

I beleive that you are in error nmh

"Wherever politics tries to be redemptive, it is promising too much. Where it wishes to do the work of God, it becomes not divine, but demonic." — Pope Benedict XVI: SACRAMENTUM CARITATIS

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/apost_exhortations/documents/hf_ben-xvi_exh_20070222_sacramentum-caritatis_en.html

81 posted on 07/30/2010 1:01:14 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: nmh; BenKenobi; verga
NYer's unnecessary remarks were out of the blue, haughty and certainly unchristian.

While I can appreciate how you might have perceived my remarks as being "unchristian", they were offered in christian charity. If it is possible, please step back from the argument and consider the following. Up until the Reformation, only one group of christians had separated themselves from the Church founded by Christ - the Orthodox. Essentially, for 1,000 years, there was only one christian church - the Catholic Church. It was the Catholic Church that compiled the Bible. As one who loves scripture, you realize, of course, that according to the Bible Itself, the Church is the "pillar of truth" (1 Timothy 3:15), not the Bible

Was individual interpretation of Scripture practiced by the early Christians or the Jews? Again, "NO" (Acts 8:29-35). The assertion that individuals can correctly interpret Scripture is false. Even the "founder" of Sola Scriptura (Martin Luther), near the end of his life, was afraid that "any milkmaid who could read" would found a new Christian denomination based on his or her "interpretation" of the Bible. Luther opened a "Pandora's Box" when he insisted that the Bible could be interpreted by individuals and that It is the sole authority of Christianity. Why do we have over 30,000 different non-Catholic Christian denominations? The reason is individuals' "different" interpretations of the Bible. Can there be more than one interpretation of the Bible? No. The word "truth" is used several times in the New Testament. However, the plural version of the word "truth" never appears in Scripture. Therefore, there can only be one Truth. So how can there be over 30,000 non-Catholic Christian denominations all claiming to have the "Truth" (i.e., the correct interpretation of the Bible)? For that matter, aren't ALL non-Catholic Christians as individuals claiming "infallibility" when it comes to interpreting the Bible?

82 posted on 07/30/2010 3:05:25 PM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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To: nmh

‘I’d pipe down and save my venom for the individual rather than broad brush a group, namely Protestants, that you HATE’

I was a protestant. I simply call them as I see them. Mainstream protestants voted for Obama too.


96 posted on 07/31/2010 9:50:19 AM PDT by BenKenobi (We cannot do everything at once, but we can do something at once. -Silent Cal)
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