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The Catholic Church Changed The Ten Commandments? [Ecumenical]
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Posted on 07/28/2010 8:09:50 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: small voice in the wilderness

>>I’m not talking about a picture of your father. I’m talking about a statue of Mary.<<

I’m talking about the picture of my father because I don’t have a statue of Mary that I treat that way.

I do have a picture of my father, which by the standards of this thread, means I adore it. Do you believe that? That I worship my father?


61 posted on 07/28/2010 10:21:23 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

>>I love that analogy is apparently not allowed/not understood by some here.<<

It’s just like the liberal idea of Social Justice.
My flying lib sister says that she can’t understand Christians who don’t want socialized healthcare. We are to give to the least of our brothers.

When I say, that Christianity goes both ways and taking my livelihood without my desire to give is stealing, the conversation shuts down.

There is a difference between “not understand” and “won’t understand”.


64 posted on 07/28/2010 10:26:26 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: netmilsmom

You mean like how you logically cornered the dude in the post above, and so he had to call for mommy rather than answer your question? ;)


65 posted on 07/28/2010 10:28:37 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

>>This was not an ecumenical remark.

It needs to be stuck down. <<

It was a genuine question asking basically whether EVERYTHING that Jesus did in His time, Every word He said, every moment, was recorded in the Bible.

Catholics don’t believe that. Do you?


66 posted on 07/28/2010 10:28:51 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: netmilsmom; Religion Moderator
Your remark was POTTY LANGUAGE on an ecumenical thread.

67 posted on 07/28/2010 10:30:12 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa; netmilsmom
Oh, it's understood. It's just not TRUE.

Is netmilson's father, the headstone that the girl if kneeling in front of, the picture of santa by the baby Jesus, or a vase of flowers:

declare that all blessings come throught them?

called All-Holy

all-powerful

declared as the Assumtion of..

called co-redeemer

had the devotion of John Paul II

called the force behind the Gospel

declared Immaculately conceived

called the Immaculate Heart of

called the Mediatrix of All Grace

called the Mother of God

called the Mother of the Church

called a perpetual virgin

prayed to

called the Queen of Heaven and Earth

declared that salvation only through them

called sinless perfection

venerated

Please do not insult the intelligence by trying to assert that there is NO DIFFERENCE>

68 posted on 07/28/2010 10:31:15 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012; Religion Moderator; Salvation; narses

Which part?

Do you believe that when the Mod was talking about “Potty Language” he/she was actually speaking of using the privy?

Really? Because maybe that should be clarified. My understanding of a Potty Mouth is the same as the Urban Dictionary.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pottymouth

If we can’t speak about using the bathroom, I’d like to know that.


69 posted on 07/28/2010 10:34:07 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

I didn’t know the girl kneeling there was saying all that. You can lip read still photos better than anyone I know.


70 posted on 07/28/2010 10:35:01 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: small voice in the wilderness

>>Oh, it’s understood. It’s just not TRUE.

Is netmilson’s father, the headstone that the girl if kneeling in front of, the picture of santa by the baby Jesus, or a vase of flowers: <<

Nothing that you use as an example below this quote has anything to do with the pictures originally posted to show Idol Worship.

By my actions with my father’s picture, do you think I worship it?


71 posted on 07/28/2010 10:37:04 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: netmilsmom; Religion Moderator
There are two things recently that I have
observed among those in the Roman "church"
  1. Attempt to provoke others in an ecumenical thread
  2. Call people names and never discuss the issues
Saul Alinsky would be proud.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

72 posted on 07/28/2010 10:40:45 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Amazing that people who brag on their own powers of observation are completely clueless that when a direct theological question to them is reworded in such a way that they no longer feel the need to whine about it, yet they still have no response to the question. But of course it’s others who “never discuss the issues.”


73 posted on 07/28/2010 10:52:08 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: UriÂ’el-2012; Lera; netmilsmom
All mortal men.

All sinners.

True.

There is no evidence in YHvH's Word where Sabbath is changed from YHvH Commanded Shabbat to Sunday.

That was not the purpose of my response. The purpose of my response was to refute your earlier assertion that the change in the day of worship was moved from Saturday to Sunday as a result of the "anti-semitic" Nicene Council and to refute Lera's concurrence and interjection of the local council of Laodicea.

That is the value of looking at the early Church Fathers. Not so much to define doctrine, but to gain an understanding of how it was practiced in the early Church.

You can choose to believe what you will...none of my business one way or the other. And I note that based on your history, you are pretty good about citing scriptures to back up your point (even though I often do not agree with your interpretations of those scriptures). But if you start bringing up false assertions as a matter of church history, somebody should call you on it.

74 posted on 07/28/2010 10:52:37 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

>>There are two things recently that I have
observed among those in the Roman “church”

1. Attempt to provoke others in an ecumenical thread
2. Call people names and never discuss the issues<<

Would you please point out where I...?

1. Attempted to provoke you
2. Called you a name

Here, In the interest of promoting a “discussion of the issues” let’s change it. Do you think that Jesus ever got dressed in the morning?


75 posted on 07/28/2010 10:55:55 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
. But of course it’s others who “never discuss the issues.”

Here is the question:

Where in YHvH's Holy Word did YHvH or Yah'shua
His salvation change the YHvH commanded
Sabbath from Shabbat to the Pagan Sunday ?

Please answer the question.


76 posted on 07/28/2010 10:57:38 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: netmilsmom

Potty language includes profanities and word usage that would be unseemly in polite company, e.g. among children or seniors.


77 posted on 07/28/2010 10:57:52 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: netmilsmom
And by the way - his putting 'church' in quotation marks - oh nooooooo, that wasn't provocative at all.

Some people just plain ain't worth name-calling.

78 posted on 07/28/2010 10:59:32 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Religion Moderator

>>Potty language includes profanities and word usage that would be unseemly in polite company, e.g. among children or seniors.<<

So privy isn’t it? Cause I can walk into our VBS, the Lutheran Sunday School that my girls attended or the Senior Center where we have volunteered to hand out meals and no one had a problem with the word “privy”.

In fact, a dear old WWII vet said it and got my kids giggling so hard one dropped a plate!


79 posted on 07/28/2010 11:02:27 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Gerish; TSgt
How do you reconcile the fact that they are kneeling, bowing, kissing, gazing at the statue or image of Mary?

They are certainly not worshipping her, rather they are praying for her intercession and/or showing adoration.

When instead they could be humbling themselves before Jesus (not a statue of Him) and praying directly to Him. We have no need of an intercessor.

80 posted on 07/28/2010 11:02:38 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("All religion ever made of me was a sinner with a rock tied to my feet" - FFH)
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