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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Texas Songwriter; stfassisi; YHAOS; dfwgator; Diamond; xzins

They live in their own reality, defined and made possible by their nature. 

For the same reason you don't find humans weaving spider webs. It's their nature.

To a greater or lesser degree. I am not sure to what degree a Neanderthal, 60,000 years ago, possessed  self-consciousness and rational mind.

It must be something we can detect and understand, in agreement with our nature, i.e. something we can see, hear and comprehend.

Sure he can, within his nature. It can't be something that requires organs he doesn't have, something above his auditory frequency or outside of his visual spectrum, or his mental capacity; it must be in the language he understands, etc. The message must conform to the "measure of man" for man to receive it and understand it.

What four great revelations?

You mean like God cannot lie? Even God cannot be what he is not by nature.

It does?

What cosmic life? Where in the cosmos do you find life except here on earth? Last time I checked, the divine Nous was not part of the cosmos, but rather its maker.

757 posted on 09/21/2010 7:48:49 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; Texas Songwriter; stfassisi; YHAOS; dfwgator; Diamond; xzins
What four great revelations?

Quoting my dearest sister in Christ, Alamo-Girl:

God the Father has revealed Himself in four ways: in the Person of Jesus Christ His only begotten Son, in the Person of the indwelling Holy Spirit, in Scripture and in His Creation both physical and spiritual. And His revelations do not contradict each other.

You wrote: "Even God cannot be what he is not by nature."

Well that may very well be so; on the other hand, the point seems moot, since you yourself confess you do not know who or what God "is." So how can you speak of His "nature?"

You wrote: "What cosmic life? Where in the cosmos do you find life except here on earth?"

So far, we know of no life forms in the cosmos other than on earth. But this is to miss the point: What if the entire cosmos were a single, dynamically integrated living system? It's an intriguing question, with an ancient heritage. And it is being reconsidered by certain theoretical biologists in recent times.

Here's a question I find interesting: Which provides the "largest model" of the universe — physics, or biology? Until very recently, it's been taken for granted that Newtonian physics is the "largest model," and biology is but a "special case" of physics. This supposition is due to the comparative rarity (as far as we know) of life forms in the universe.

But if biology were to turn out to be the "largest model," and physics then relegated to a "special case" of this model, this may indicate that the entire universal system is in some fashion alive, that the Creation itself is a living creature....

I have a friend, a Hungarian astrophysicist and theoretical biologist, who has written a book on this subject — The Book of the Living Universe, by Atilla Grandpierre of the Hungarian Academy of Science. [Now available in Magyar and German, but hopefully coming soon in English....]

Personally, I think my friend is really on to something here. The ideas are fascinating.

778 posted on 09/26/2010 11:13:32 AM PDT by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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