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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; Texas Songwriter; YHAOS; dfwgator; Diamond; xzins; TXnMA; shibumi; Quix
...in response to betty boop's observation that the only country with liberty will disappear in the near future and be replaced by the "French model."

I never said that!!! I never said "the only country with liberty will disappear in the near future and be replaced by the 'French model.'"

Dear kosta, it is evident to me that you and I do not live in the "same world."

You live in a world where you have resort to a "crystal ball" by means of which to prophesize what WILL happen in the future. Either that, or you live in a mechanistic, utterly deterministic system where the path from point A inexorably leads to point B. It's a "steady-state" system utterly determined by what is already known, which does not anticipate the introduction of any new elements that could change the "fatal" path....

But I do not have a crystal ball, and do not live in a deterministic universe: I live in a contingent one: The path from point A to B can be disturbed, influenced, even transformed by the introduction of new elements along the way.

While I do truly appreciate your analysis of the "situation on the ground" in American society right now — it's actually awesomely spot-on in many respects — I do not consider the outcome you describe to be a "done deal."

Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

646 posted on 09/06/2010 1:41:38 PM PDT by betty boop (Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
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To: betty boop

[kosta]...in response to betty boop's observation that the only country with liberty will disappear in the near future and be replaced by the "French model."

[betty boop] I never said that!!! I never said "the only country with liberty will disappear in the near future and be replaced by the 'French model.'"

I was was paraphrasing it. For the record this is what you wrote (my emphasis):

But if the "French model" finally wins, America as we know it will cease to exist. It's just that simple. The only system of liberty under just and equal laws on the face of the planet will die. (Post #625)

I was wrong in not including your "if," for which I apologize. You did reject the "mathematical certainty" which makes your "if "a legitimate and important qualifier.

I do not have a crystal ball either, betty boop, but barring some truly monumental change, perhaps an act of God as some people would say, all things considered point to a pretty much done deal, imo. 

649 posted on 09/06/2010 2:00:32 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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