Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: stfassisi; YHAOS; xzins; Alamo-Girl; Quix; RegulatorCountry; marron
It should be no surprise to you that true freedom is NOT sex on TV ,abortion , pornography etc.. all protected under the law in the US and called human liberty and freedom

Well of course it's not, dear brother in Christ! But that is not liberty; that is license. As "permitted" by the overweening State. The sort of license that damns one's soul before God in His good time. The fact is, if we stay close to what the Constitution says, we couldn't be fooled into not drawing the distinction between natural, God-given liberty and human license.

There are NO political solutions to this problem, only spiritual ones.

Still it seems you do not understand the sense of danger that I have in any combination, or fusion, of secular and spiritual authority under any purely human government. In such an organizational arrangement, man's natural propensity for evil will drag down the spiritual life of mankind altogether.

Thus the wisdom of the Holy Bible: "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto God what is God's."

To me, this is the true meaning of "the separation of Church and State." It wasn't to remove religious experience and expression from the Public Square; it was to ensure that politicians did not commandeer a person's private conscience for "public purposes."

Or so it seems to me, FWIW.

Thank you for writing, dear brother in Christ!

165 posted on 07/27/2010 4:34:14 PM PDT by betty boop (Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 161 | View Replies ]


To: betty boop
The fact is, if we stay close to what the Constitution says, we couldn't be fooled into not drawing the distinction between natural, God-given liberty and human license.

Dear Sister, we should stay close to what the Church says,not the constitution. The constitution fools people into a false sense of freedom.

The constitution is NOT divine. Hannity is wrong when he says such a foolish thing like divine constitution

Do you really believe the US will become a beacon of morality that leads people to Christ?

I'm reminded of the words of Blessed Saint Hilary of Poiters when I think of some of the FF's..

"But nowadays, we have to do with a disguised persecutor, a smooth-tongued enemy, a Constantius who has put on Antichrist; who scourges us, not with lashes, but with caresses who instead of robbing us, which would give us spiritual life, bribes us with riches, that he may lead us to eternal death; who thrusts us not into the liberty of a prison, but into the honours of his palace, that he may enslave us: who tears not our flesh, but our hearts; who beheads not with a sword, but kills the soul with his gold; who sentences not by a herald that we are to be burnt, but covertly enkindles the fire of hell against us. He does not dispute with us, that he may conquer; but he flatters us, that so he may lord it over our souls. He confesses Christ, the better to deny Him; he tries to procure a unity which shall destroy peace; he puts down some few heretics, so that he may also crush the Christians; he honours Bishops, that they may cease to be Bishops; he builds up Churches, that he may pull down the Faith.

‘Let men talk as they will, and accuse me of strong language, and calumny: it is. the duty of a minister of the truth to speak the truth. If what I say be untrue, let me be branded with the name of an infamous calumniator: but if I prove what I assert, then I am not exceeding the bounds of apostolic liberty, nor transgressing the humility of a successor of the Apostles by speaking thus, after so long observing silence. . . No, this is not rashness, it is faith; it is not inconsiderateness, it is duty; it is not passion, it is conscience"-Saint Hilary of Poiters

168 posted on 07/27/2010 5:02:02 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 165 | View Replies ]

To: betty boop

WELL PUT.

I am increasingly convinced that

AMERICA was set up by God for many reasons . . .

ONE of them to serve as an

EXAMPLE

that even the best, kindest, form of government

APART FROM HIM

ends up as deadly as all the rest.


175 posted on 07/27/2010 8:24:57 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 165 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson