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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; kosta50; slimemold; YHAOS
Certainly if stfassisi is looking for a "perfect" form of government in this world prior to the Second Coming of Christ, he will only be disappointed.

That's not reality,dear sister.All I'm saying is we have a perfect system for faith in morals through the Church.The constitution is not a replacement,not even close. Sadly, people and governments want to detach themselves from it,even members of the Church itself,including clergy etc.. do this.

The reality is that the American system is degrading each day along with the world,so my point is ,it was never holy and is flawed in the first place even though it's better than other governments.

We are to stand up for what's moral and right,even though we know this world is falling away. What wrong with that?

151 posted on 07/27/2010 3:19:56 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; slimemold; YHAOS
All I'm saying is we have a perfect system for faith in morals through the Church

SFA, we are all aware (I hope) that this is far form the truth. Not because of what the Church teaches, but what the Church practices.

The same thing is true of our government: based on noble principles, but stained in practice.

154 posted on 07/27/2010 3:31:16 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: stfassisi; Alamo-Girl; kosta50; slimemold; YHAOS
All I'm saying is we have a perfect system for faith in morals through the Church. The constitution is not a replacement, not even close.

Dear brother in Christ, the Constitution was never designed to be a completed system, let alone a replacement for "faith in morals," through the Church or in any other way. It was designed to keep the State off the backs of people seeking to express their conscience, their expressions of faith protected against and unmolested by transient opinion.

The genius of the Framers was to recognize the profound peril of allowing the secular and the spiritual to become fused under a single STATE authority. They KNEW that man in civil society must render unto Caesar — that is above all the nature of things in human mortal existence — while at the same time God calls him "to render unto God what is God's." But that sort of thing must always escape the direct command of the secular state, at all times. That is why our founding documents place such a profound emphasis on the bases of human liberty — which can only be sought in God.

159 posted on 07/27/2010 4:00:19 PM PDT by betty boop (Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
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