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To: Legatus
Joseph Ratzinger is about the only curial official who actually saw "the problem" as a PROBLEM.

Sorry, but whatever follows that lie is just more of the same.

Ratzinger was tasked with keeping a lid on the scandal and he just about succeeded, what with his letter to the bishops warning them that Crimen Sollicitationis was still in effect and absolute secrecy was still imposed on everyone under penalty of excommunication, victims included.

But when the pederast priest scandals erupted in Boston and Los Angeles and Germany and all over the planet, with billions of dollars paid out in fines and redress, the jig was up.

Ooops.

"And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." -- John 3:19

Once they get done with us not practicing what we preach they'll go after us for practicing what we preach... then they'll move on to you.

I'll take that chance. Your rationalization of evil is repugnant.

It isn't like they care about the actual sexual abuse anyhow.

You're actually describing Ratzinger and Rome and all those pederast priests who consider themselves to be "another Christ" and thus think they are "entitled."

They're not.

41 posted on 07/21/2010 4:30:56 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Sorry, but whatever follows that lie is just more of the same.

So I'm lying? Not misinformed, not confused, just lying? Those were my words and my opinion based on my understanding of the issue as it played out in my life. I had only been Catholic for five years when the explosion came in 2002 and it was not a welcoming present with which I was particularly pleased. I was very outspoken and offended a lot of people with my outrage, the only ally Catholics in the US had who actually believed in God was Cardinal Ratzinger. That was one of the primary reasons a lot of us were having daydreams about him being elected pope in 2005, we thought the "filth in the Church" statement was the nail in his pontifical coffin and then a miracle happened.

I'm not trying to trap you here, but you seem to be confused. In 2002 Cardinal Ratzinger was the only person in Rome who did care about what everyone else saw as an American problem.

In no way did I rationalize evil, I warned that the "civil, legal and moral authorities" to whom you were appealing, aren't. Down the path which you seem eager to run lies a great deal of danger. That is not a rationalization of evil, it is a warning that the hammer you're wanting to use may bounce back and break your nose.

Earlier in my initial response to Salvation I pointed out that the only reason any of the American bishops bothered to even issue statements about the scandalous behaviour of their priests was because of the constant pressure and scorn of the press. The American bishops are absolutely a problem, Benedict XVI is not.

I'm sure you've seen it many times before but for those who haven't:

How often do we celebrate only ourselves, without even realizing that he is there! How often is his Word twisted and misused! What little faith is present behind so many theories, so many empty words! How much filth there is in the Church, and even among those who, in the priesthood, ought to belong entirely to him! How much pride, how much self-complacency!

He wasn't talking about the dustbunnies in the corner. But then he wasn't just talking about the abuse of minors.

47 posted on 07/21/2010 5:30:51 PM PDT by Legatus
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