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To: MEGoody
Ayn Rand may have said a few smart things, but she seems to have been a pretty empty person overall

And sadly, this causes no shortage of morons to go after her personally, and discuss her emptiness, rather than discussing the smart things she said. Interesting, isn't it?

Some people discuss people...
others discuss events...
and still others discuss ideas.

Eleanor Roosevelt uttered something along those lines. Lets discuss her sexuality and her public disagreement with Francis Joseph Spellman, the Catholic Archbishop of New York! Juicy!

44 posted on 07/20/2010 8:08:49 AM PDT by Teacher317 (I'm sore)
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To: Teacher317
And sadly, this causes no shortage of morons to go after her personally, and discuss her emptiness, rather than discussing the smart things she said. Interesting, isn't it?

If the highest apostle of a philosophy violates same at every turn ... what are we to make of both the philosopher and her philosophy?

In the end, the self-contradictory nature of Rand's philosophy shines forth in her own wretched behavior. Look at the hypocritical dynamics -- they were oh, so Objectivist about it -- of her affair with Nathaniel Branden. (You can read about it in Barbara Branden's book, The Passion of Ayn Rand, for example.)

But really, that's about what one would expect of a philosophy like Rand's Objectivism, which is not even logically self-consistent.

53 posted on 07/20/2010 8:21:07 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Teacher317
And sadly, this causes no shortage of morons to go after her personally, and discuss her emptiness, rather than discussing the smart things she said.

There is no shortage of morons who worship her, that is for sure.

55 posted on 07/20/2010 8:28:36 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Teacher317; Dr. Sivana; ninenot; ArrogantBustard
One of the "morons" (as you put it) who went after La Rand personally was Ludwig von Mises. Young Americans for Freedom ran a fundraiser at roof-top restaurant in Manhattan on the occasion of von Mises's 75th birthday in the early 1960s. Mr. von Mises stationed himself where he could witness Rand's arrival by her refection in a plate glass window. When she arrived, he wheeled on her and read her out for about fifteen minutes on the theme; "So, you are the silly woman who believes that you can be free without God..." Rand fled in tears and never showed at another conservative movement function for the rest of her life.

She read Murray Rothbard out of her immediate circle for marrying "a believer" when she could not dissuade him from doing so even though he was then still an atheist. So much for freedom of thought or to marry.

She did not think much of Nathaniel Branden's marriage either. Rand was an outspoken advocate of the necessity of acting on one's beliefs. She did.

Eleanor Roosevelt was simply a more honest enemy of Western Civilization and apparently a lesbian (in her old age) whereas no one familiar with La Rand denies that she was a straight "consumer" of the husbands of other women. In doing so, Rand also despised the freedom to contract marriage while being imagined some sort of libertarian.

Note that this post discusses a person (La Rand), her behavior (serial adultery) which consists of events and the emptiness and juvenile nature of her ideas.

91 posted on 07/20/2010 11:01:35 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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