Matthew 1:25 but knew her not until she had borne a son; and he called his name Jesus.
I am told that the Greek does not imply that normal marital relations did occur after His birth, rather, the emphasis is on Joseph not being responsible for the conception of Jesus.
Who in the world told you that? Can you do any better?
To: OLD REGGIE
"It's truly amazing how many conversions take place with no witnesses."
I already posted that I knew an eye witness; Fr. Robert (Bob) Curtis who was in attendance when Archbishop McGrath baptized Wayne.
Add to that the numerous family members and close personal friends like John Ford who recount the same story and you have more proof than the one UK website you found after sifting through who knows how many.
It is pitiful that the conversion of one man, regardless of his fame, has become a cause celeb worthy of the anti-Catholics lies.
4,574 posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 4:55:35 PM by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"The ONLY person to insist Wayne was awake when he received last rites is the UCLA chaplain who supposedly gave them to him."
Just because the Presbyterian church is dying doesn't mean John Wayne died a Presbyterian.
No one is insisting that Wayne was awake when he received Last Rites, we are insisting that he was awake and alert when he was Baptized, and not by Fr. Curtis, but by Archbishop McGrath.
Playing so loose with the known facts, even in your retorts, is just further damaging your credibility (if that is even possible).
4,706 posted on 07/31/2010 6:51:09 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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Lets see this story: Where was Archbishop McGrath? Who were the witnesses?
For those who don't have a .pdf reader see below:
John Wayne became Catholic before he died
LOS ANGELES— Actor John Wayne was received into the Catholic Church, in the presence of his family, Sunday June 10, the day before he died, according to the Catholic Chaplain who per- formed the rites.
Paulist Father Robert Curtis, Catholic chaplain at UCLA Medical Center and assistant pastor at St. Paul's Church, Westwood, L.A., disclosed the information in the following statement issued from his office:
"John Wayne was received into the Catholic Church the day before he died.Mr. Wayne was conscious at the time. We are not releasing any further information on the matter which is private between priest and penitent."
It was further disclosed that Mrs. Toni La-Clava, a daughter of Mr. Wayne, is a member of the family life bureau of the Arch- diocese of Los Angeles. Burial services for Mr. Wayne were private.
Among many visitors to Wayne's hospital room during the past month was Archbishop Marcos McGrath of Panama. Wayne has backed the Panama Canal Treaties.
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Another story: And the book???
It seems the Eyewitness testimony of the Baptism of John Wayne doesn't hold up.
"Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive."