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To: D-fendr; Dr. Eckleburg

There is none righteous. Nobody is going to seek a savior if they don’t see their need for one. Until one recognizes that they are completely corrupt, wicked, and perverted, they’re not going to seek a savior. They’re going to think that their own good works are good enough to earn a place in heaven. They’re going to learn the hard way that that’s not going to cut it.

Jeremiah 17:9

New International Version (©1984)
The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?

English Standard Version (©2001)
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
“The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?

King James Bible
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

American King James Version
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

American Standard Version
The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is exceedingly corrupt: who can know it?

Douay-Rheims Bible
The heart is perverse above all things, and unsearchable, who can know it?


7,265 posted on 08/06/2010 10:50:46 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
We're talking about Mary here. You can call her wicked if you want. I don't believe her Son, St. Joseph or the Apostles would agree with you.
Elizabeth, filled with the holy Spirit, cried out in a loud voice and said, "Most blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb."
"perverted, deviant, degenerate, debased, immoral, unprincipled; debauched, dissolute, licentious, lecherous, prurient, indecent, sordid; wicked, vile, nefarious; informal warped, twisted, sick…?
7,266 posted on 08/06/2010 11:03:56 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: metmom
Nobody is going to seek a savior

When did Mary do this? Is she still complete wicked and corrupt, perverted, deviant, degenerate, debased, immoral, unprincipled; debauched, etc.?

7,267 posted on 08/06/2010 11:12:40 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: metmom
There is none righteous.
Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked with God.

7,281 posted on 08/06/2010 1:02:33 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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