Quix said in an earlier post yesterday evening that Catholics claim Mary is the “Mother of Almighty God”. I stated in my response that “Mary is the Mother of God”. I added the word, “Indeed”.
I had no idea he was talking about anything other than Mary being the Mother of Jesus, the Son of God made man, co-equal with the Father and the Holy Spirit in Majesty. It is theologically correct, though not common, to call Jesus “Almighty God”, as He is co-equal in power and majesty with the other Persons of the Trinity. This is basic Christian doctrine. This is what I thought he meant when I first replied to him.
He came back with the FALSE charge: that I believed Mary to be the Mother of God the Father. He used the term “Father/God” in this post. In his original post he didn't use that term. He merely used the term “Almighty God”.
This is a perfect example of intellectual DISHONESTY by attempting to derail the discussion with a FALSE CHARGE, created out of thin air.
I attempted to clarify the whole mess late last night in my post #6856.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2554678/posts?page=6856#6856
Apparently that was not enough. He's back here this morning with a blizzard of posts feigning outrage that a Catholic would claim Mary to be the Mother of “Almighty Father/God”. A Catholic would claim no such thing. I claimed NO SUCH THING.
The whole thing is so dishonest it makes me sick!
D-fendr’s original post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2554678/posts?page=6584#6584
Quix’s first response; claims Catholics call Mary the “Mother of Almighty God”.
He was responding to D-fendr’s examples of the logical principle (syllogism) that can also be used to articulate that Mary is the Mother of God (Jesus):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2554678/posts?page=6586#6586
My response to Quix's post:; I call Mary the “Mother of God”. Since Quix was responding to a post by D-fendr that discusses the Catholic view that Mary, the Mother of Jesus, is also the Mother of God, I'm assuming here that Quix is simply adding the adjective Almighty to the noun “God” and still referring to Jesus, not God the Father. At this point, he hadn't even used the word “Father”:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2554678/posts?page=6725#6725
His accusation that myself and other Catholics consider Mary the Mother of God the Father; he uses the term “Almighty/Father God” for the first time. This comes out of thin air to throw a large monkey wrench into the discussion. Nowhere did I assert that Mary is the “Mother of Almighty/Father God”. I've never heard such a phrase before. Never:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2554678/posts?page=6766#6766
Quix repeats this FALSE charge a few posts later:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2554678/posts?page=6783#6783
I respond to his post #6762 with a colorful “INDEED!” to his phrase, “Mary is the Mother of Almighty God”, assuming, of course, he is simply adding the adjective “Almighty” and we are still talking about Jesus here, not God the Father:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2554678/posts?page=6807#6807
My post #6817 to Alamo-Girl, trying to clarify the matter. I admit that I misspoke a few posts before that, #6814, by wondering if he had meant the three Persons of the Trinity in the term “Almighty God”. Obviously I realized my mistake and clarified it in this post, #6817:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2554678/posts?page=6817#6817
Alamo-girl’s response, an interesting discussion of the issue of the “Names of God”:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2554678/posts?page=6826#6826
My final clarification on the matter last night:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2554678/posts?page=6856#6856
The first of a whole series of “outraged” responses by Quix, claiming FALSELY that Catholics believe Mary to be the “Mother of Almighty/Father God”:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2554678/posts?page=6871#6871
quote:
“ don't think I've ever ran onto a single other Christian in all my 63 years who would brazenly claim that Mary was the mother of Almighty/Father God. Someone needs to give these folks lessons in when to stop digging.”
THEN, to top it all off, he uses Pope John Paul II in an attempt to smack me down.
The ultimate in chutzpah!
THIS IS THE ENTIRE POSTING HISTORY, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, ON THIS MATTER.
I'm not going to waste any more of the precious time God has given me on this Earth to respond to nonsense like this; nonsense that I've seen posted time and time again here.
CATHOLICS DO NOT CALL MARY THE “MOTHER OF ALMIGHTY/FATHER GOD”.
I never said it, I never meant it, and it would be nice to get a retraction.
And I ask that you read Quix' post at 6994 - truly, at the root we had a difference in understanding the meaning of certain words.