[Mad Dawg]

To me, to say that she gave birth to the man Jesus and not to God, is to say that the man in Jesus can be separated from God. He is not one being then, but two. So I balk at it.

As far as everyone testing for himself. I don't find that in the Bible. I DO find that some are apostles, some teaches, and so forth. Some, not all.

And not everyone has the time or the gifts to do his own testing. Surely you don't think a 3 year old should do his own testing. What about someone who doesn't have the gift for Bible study and theology?

And if the Bible and the gifts you say are provided, there is still the problem of the divisions among Sola Scriptura adherents. Some say the Bible has all Truth. Others profess Sola Scripture but do not say that. They can't both be right, can they?

I didn't say I didn't believe in the Fall. I alluded to (but did not say outright) that you seemed to think that reason is so corrupted that it cannot be relied on. I think there are problems, but not with reason itself. Rather we don't use it, we don't listen to it, we don't always WANT to know the truth. So our reason errs sometimes, but more often we just don't or won't use it.

[Quix]

When those on your side are brazenly willing to make the idiotic UNBIBLICAL assertion that Mary is the Mother of Almighty/Father God . . . none of y’all’s complaints against the worst of the Proddys hold a molecule of water any more by, comparison.

Sheesh.